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always good to here others methods !

I have no idea and I dont know if it is considered a gun as such -you will need to send them an email to ask for advice me thinks .You can possibly purchase one here from Young's airguns plus the...

probably best get one from Lion country supply

Blank Firing Pistols / Starter Pistols and Blank Ammo

Simple solution Stoney -leave the collar on him but turn it on only when working or training -do not6 let him get the upper hand otherwise you might be wearing that electrical device before long...

youd go to hospital with split sides if you had seen it !! Seriously one should check collar strength on ones self before using in on the mutt -I personally think these devices should be Licensed !!!

why cant I edit my above post -the spelling fairies have got into it and fully retarded me

Im have to say Wire hair -full power to me would be tantamount to torture -but I agree with you about using them sparingly .If you use it to incorrectly youll get a dog that wont leave your feet . We...

I hope this helps to some degree -Ideas some may work for you some may not

one should point out as i already have many methods works for different requirements as many dogs have gone onto to perform well in the feild or on the trial paddock with inadequate trainers -dogs...

good solid advice Ruff and ill practice your method on the new bitch,sadly she will already be 13-14 months once landed without any training on her through some of the very formative months of...

good info guys-i always hand held the cord.mind if im teaching quartering with whistle i still would hand hold a jerk the cord

the bottomless pitt=lab:o

If I tried training with treats my dog would laugh at me --seriously I cannot get him to eat his dinner at night ,he eats only when he wants and I leave him to it.

dont think that was me Dougie

longgg whistle on high tapering off -any distance he will go down if he can here it clearly.its the same as a close down whistle. teach it at a controllable distance then progress further out

Dougie in no way have you hijacked the thread,its all about all these post here now! its good info and views from different sides and we all have one.

Im going down the park now to do "youll fucken obey me whistle training " .:yuush:Well broach some more subjects tonight

Fantastic thoughtful post Ruff !Never be to high and mighty not to learn afresh or at lest consider a sensible & knowledgeable person who does this for a job.Dougie don't ever take offense but...

That would be great Ruff -this is what this post is about discussing the problems or methods or answers to those challenges in training .
I would be surprised if training varys between dogs in the...

No difference Dougie in any dog .Clear precise objectives carried out in a fun consistent manner.Whilst I recognize yours methods are vastly different to Ruffs model if yours is working its working...

Sit lesson for me . I use the word sit to the puppy and push either his butt to the floor or whole body down on the ground depending on which you prefer.
Again sit -push down --he moves --sit push...

I am presuming this is only for continental dogs LOL

Luke whats probably more relevant is what type of dog you personally have and what do you do with him -gun dog -trialing -just a pet ?? What expectation do you have with your dog in the field ?...

Worth a thread for one thinks given we have some people on here that train their dogs to a reasonable level and of course Ruff being a dog trainer -will he cough up his tit bits ??? lol

We all...