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Yes but that 75% is based on your 16 inch trapper, which I kind of relate to about 44mag levels due to the shorter barrel. I was asking in relation to a 20 inch carbine.

Would the end result have been different if it had been in 30-30?. That soft tip ammo increases usable range by a lot. Still no scope though on a top eject. I guess what I am asking is putting aside...

Pretty much an obsolete cartridge now though. How hard is ammo or brass to get?

Unless your lucky enough to find a 16" trapper model like Cigars (or mine) you will most likely be looking at a 20" carbine, these weigh 71/2 lbs. As much as I love these guns you are better off...