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Depends what you call long range and what cal your using. the 338s and 375s 416s etc im sure would kill up close with any projectile there is just so much energy.

Something like a...

+1 the plastic tip makes them much more violent, Not a bush pill IMHO unless you only shoot them in the neck or slip it in behind the shoulder and thats just not possible a lot of the time.

It all depends what you want from a projectile Toby. Frangible (explody) projectiles will drop a lung shot deer(slipped in behind the shoulder on a quartering away animal) like the hammer of Thor and...

I definitely respect the animal Scribe.
But we all do that in different ways. I dont sit down and say a prayer but there is always that touch of regret/sadness for taking an animals life.
We all...

If im not 100% certain where it landed il watch it threw the scope, If you aimed at the neck and its lifting its head or waving it round youd better get there quick or give it another. :ORLY:

And nothing worse than when it gets up and runs shortly after!

Toby, you seem very interested in dropping them on the spot. Hitting the spine or shocking the spine is is usually what causes this so head/neck/ high lung shots are most likely to do it. Hopefully...

I aggree in part. Certainly need a decent sample but thousands? Id shot around 15 deer with a projectile I wont name or use again and thought they were the ducks nuts. No 16 was two blow ups without...

I will add that one mans perfect performance is another mans blow up or pencil threw.
How you want a bullet to perform is a very personal thing.

130ttsx 30 cal impact velocity 2250fps
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No like button on this post? I was going to like it:)

Yep, 5 maby 4 yards on a decent sized billy front on. penetrated the full length and dragged 90 of the guts out unbroken:D
Iv got more Barnes shots somewhere Il try and find some tomorrow.

I can see what killed it........... fist sized holes threw the engine room do that.:cool:

That depends entirely on the pill and impact velocity, even thick skin eg roaring stag or matted coat full of mud can cause "Issues" with a very frangible pill at high impact velocity's(IE close)...

130ttsx30cal impact velocity 3180fps
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Just remember you cant lump bullets/weights performance together. Impact velocity is the thing not range, differnt cals and cartridges Can push a pill to a wide velocity range.

30 cal amax 168gr...