Thread: Another "What Rifle" thread. Norinco JW-15 vs Ruger 10/22

Hey all. I apologise for another one of these threads, but I want to get some opinions on a pee shooter.

I have an opportunity to shot possums and rabbits on a block of land very close to me, BUT it must be a .22 I do not own a .22 so I need to get one. Now I have had .22's in the past (sterling, norinco em332) but never a semi. The ruger appeals but at $599 for a suppressed 4x32 scope stainless version I am a little unsure if I want to spend that much on a bunny gun. So someone suggested a Norinco JW15. Now I have had a play with one at H&F and fuck me that's a horrible action, but I am assured they get better with use, and are fairly accurate.

The rugger is obviously much better quality, but the norinico is CHEAP. What do you guys reckon. I am not adverse to spending the $600, but if I can get something as good for less, or something better for the same i'd be all over it. I'd like a nice CZ, but they are too much for a gun that gets used once in a blue moon. Ideally i'd like to get the ruger bare, and buy a DPT supressor and a nice leupold/redfield/nikon/bushnell 3-9x40, but then the cost goes up even more, so fuck knows.

Marlin

Maybe a marlin semi, good reviews, rugers were better when they were free floated and made of steel

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If buying a semi I'd go Marlin over Ruger, much better rep for accuracy. Both have horrible heavy triggers as standard though.

JW-15s do smooth out a bit over time (and can be polished up with a bit of work). Savage, Marlin, Zastava other good accurate bolt actions. Savage triggers are the nicest IMO. Best to handle a few options in the shop and see which you prefer the feel of.

Originally Posted by Toby

Marlin

Marlin XT22
or Marlin 795?

If the 795 thats $349 plus threading and suppressor, so another $120-130 so that makes it $469-479 it's under $500 which is good. The XT22 is even cheaper $449 with everything.

How does the Remington 597 stack up against the Ruger and the Marlin?

Originally Posted by Brennos

Marlin XT22
or Marlin 795?

Do you want bolt or semi

Serious shooters do JW's for 180.

Mate, you mention the CZ and $600, I assume you mean the bolt action 452, model 1/2 Brno etc?
Buy a good condition second hand brno/cz and you will be far far happier than the other options brand new, they pop up for around $600 often (talking bolts here, no experience with the semis.) Just my opinion.
The Marlin would be my next choice, The 10/22 is cool but you need to spend $$$$$ on them to get them shooting well. I hate Norincos!

Keep in mind the quality of ammo you use when you do have your rifle of choice as it makes a big difference over any sort of distance i've found.. I regret buying a Ruger 10/22 i'd recommend something?? not sure what.. Reliablity in regards to cycling ammo has been great but has taken a bit of work to improve its accuracy out of the box.

First work out if you want semi or bolt.

If semi then go Marlin 795, saw them for $299 new somewhere. Trigger is bad but easy to fix yourself, unlike the 10/22.

Originally Posted by Savage1

First work out if you want semi or bolt.

If semi then go Marlin 795, saw them for $299 new somewhere. Trigger is bad but easy to fix yourself, unlike the 10/22.

+1

The Marlin semi trigger can be fixed normally with just a floppy shutter spring and 5 minutes. The Marlin bolts with a pen spring and 10 minutes. They both still shoot well out of the box. I have a secondhand JW that cost very little and shoots amazingly.

Originally Posted by Brennos

How does the Remington 597 stack up against the Ruger and the Marlin?

Brothers 597 was a jamtastic piece of shit, tried multiple mags and ammo in it and nothing seemed to help.

And while we're sharing, buddy at work bought a Mossberg 802 brand new, got it home to find swarf all through the trigger assembly.


Moral of the story, every .22 is bad. Just buy a Mosin, now only $245 at Reloaders!

haha. I am going to buy another one. I messaged Dan and asked him JW15 and a mosin, or a Ruger lol. Check your facebook in a bit too Az.

At this stage i am leaning towards the Ruger as it's a complete package that I can shoot NOW. Where as the Marlin requires threading and fucking about, plus there seems to be enough add ons for the ruger to sink a tactical battle ship, which would be nice for a change. Going to go into Serious shooters tomorrow and see how they both fit and feel me, and see which ones feels best.

ive got a 10 22 and a 597 i must have got a good one as it shits all over the ruger someone mentioned a zastava ive had one very nice rifle for the price they are big on them in aussie

If you might spend money improving it later then get the 10/22. Even if just a bit here and there. Trigger kits for like $50, bolt buffers and guide rods, etc. So many after market parts/upgrades it's ridiculous.

If you want something as-is out of the box then i'd probably recommend you get something else.

I love my 10/22 but it cost a lot to get it to where I'm happy with it. And it'll probably be an ongoing project.