Thread: High court stops Urewera hut burning

According to Urewera Board 29 huts gone

29 HUTS GONE
In accordance with a High Court order, Te Uru Taumatua and Te Urewera Board have provided a complete list of the huts that have been demolished or removed from Te Urewera.
The 29 huts demolished or removed are: Kanohirua; Hanamahihi Hut; Manaohou Right Branch Hut; Mangapouri Hut; Ngahiramai Hut; Old Waiawa Hut; Otanetea Hut; Takarua Hut; Waiawa Hut; Apiti Hut; Casino Hut; Hapenuia Hut; Mangaawai Hut; Mangamako Hut; Ngatamatea Hut; Ohane Hut; Ohora Hut; Onepu Hut; Papanui Hut; Waihua Hut; Waikokopu Hut; Waipotiki Hut; Wharekahika Hut; Tawhiwhi Hut; Waikare Junction Hut; Central Waiau Hut; Manuoha Hut; Whakatakaa Hut and Whanganui Hut

Sh-t!

That sucks. Went into Waiawa and kanuhirua last year
Such a shame.

Ohane was the one and only Urewera hut I've stayed at and hunted out of. Wild country and lots of animals. Very nice open fireplace to have banter around. Remember stumbling onto an old Pa site on top of a ridge. Cool place. I'll sadly probably never visit again.

That's so sad. The Central Waiau was in great condition and had a brand new fire place.

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Originally Posted by Maddoghunter

Remove pest control.
Then put case forward for 1080.
I’ve already heard doc telling Tuhoe that the reason pig numbers are low in Te Urewera is because possum numbers are high and possums eat flowers which would’ve become berries, and that pig numbers bounce back higher than ever a couple of years after 1080.

Slightly off topic sorry but Pig numbers are the highest I’ve seen well in the areas I hunt (around the lake). Been hunting there for the last 16 years and have never seen any where near the amount of pig sign I’ve been seeing lately.

Originally Posted by Tommy

That won't stop a thing

Whadda you know: https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-z...soc4:newshubfb

And let me guess the outcome of this


1) Everyone will say its someone else's fault
2) Nothing will happen. even though they've breached the high court order


I thought at the time that a court order wouldn't stop it.

Not surprised at all.

Originally Posted by Eat Meater

I've wondered about this. Do the pigs that survive the drops get a food bonanza from the corpses for a while, helping them get into peak breeding condition? Ditto for helicopter culls. Lots of food just lying around. Then the regrowth in the bush provides food for their piglets. Population boom results.

Identify your target beyond all doubt because you never miss (right?) and I'll be missed.

Wild pigs in Te Urewera are cyclic - seems to be 6-7 yr cycles - after 1080 yes pig numbers increase ( no 1080 in Te Urewera )- likely not due to eating carcasses - quite some research suggests pigs can detect 1080 and avoid it - but a lot more feed around for them especially fattening berries - hinau Nikau Tawa etc - and no hunting pressure for awhile -Tuhoe attitude against 1080 is very firmly entrenched so don't expect it there anytime soon - but other powers will be watching the state of those important water catchments such as the Whakatane - Waiau - Ruakituri - Waimana - Hangaroa - likely they will not allow them to deteriorate to badly but a few years away yet - my big concern is access

Thats the issue though isn't it Barry. TUT, whilst claiming that the park is available for anyone to use, realistically want to exclude everyone except tuhoe. There is a rotten undertone to what they say, and then what actually happens is different. This burning the huts is just part of that. It's an easy way to exclude people and actively discourage them from coming to the Ureweras.

I know of confrontations, have even experienced them myself. Not recently like since the park was handed back, so its nothing new.

You couldn't leave your vehicle anywhere whilst you went for a hunt, still can't as I understand it. It will be burnt out when you get back.

shit behaviour.

I doubt I will ever go back there.

Originally Posted by tac a1

Thats the issue though isn't it Barry. TUT, whilst claiming that the park is available for anyone to use, realistically want to exclude everyone except tuhoe. There is a rotten undertone to what they say, and then what actually happens is different. This burning the huts is just part of that. It's an easy way to exclude people and actively discourage them from coming to the Ureweras.

I know of confrontations, have even experienced them myself. Not recently like since the park was handed back, so its nothing new.

You couldn't leave your vehicle anywhere whilst you went for a hunt, still can't as I understand it. It will be burnt out when you get back.

shit behaviour.

I doubt I will ever go back there.

No please go back - its a neat place to hunt - the bush hunting is the best in North Island - with the high deer numbers even better likely - just plan for a problem - leave an old fart to guard camp or vehicle -don't let TUT get away with the bullshit - we were guaranteed access under this new management - then use it - any problems feed it straight back to DOC -TUT or your local MP - or if real bad Police -dont give up

Originally Posted by Barry the hunter

No please go back - its a neat place to hunt - the bush hunting is the best in North Island - with the high deer numbers even better likely - just plan for a problem - leave an old fart to guard camp or vehicle -don't let TUT get away with the bullshit - we were guaranteed access under this new management - then use it - any problems feed it straight back to DOC -TUT or your local MP - or if real bad Police -dont give up

The problem pointed out by Tac a1 is that its been like that since forever. I remember having to make sure we left someone with the Tramping club van in the 1980's.

Letting the authorities/pollies know has resulted in...nothing at all.

A mate gave up possuming in the Ureweras as he got sick of dragging his arse up and down that steep countryside (good sized skins mind you) all day long only to get back to the hut and find someone sleeping in his sleeping bag, and another one cooking up a feed of his rationed out for a one-month-stay tucker.

In the end he asked the NZFS what huts could not be accessed by horse...and went there. But it wasn't long till he found 2 legged sign on the tracks and less food in his keep than when he left the hut that morning

A mate of mine had 300 traps stolen in there.

Originally Posted by XR500

The problem pointed out by Tac a1 is that its been like that since forever. I remember having to make sure we left someone with the Tramping club van in the 1980's.

Letting the authorities/pollies know has resulted in...nothing at all.

A mate gave up possuming in the Ureweras as he got sick of dragging his arse up and down that steep countryside (good sized skins mind you) all day long only to get back to the hut and find someone sleeping in his sleeping bag, and another one cooking up a feed of his rationed out for a one-month-stay tucker.

In the end he asked the NZFS what huts could not be accessed by horse...and went there. But it wasn't long till he found 2 legged sign on the tracks and less food in his keep than when he left the hut that morning

i went up the kowhai river in kaikoura. went hunting and came back to find our food was being eaten, which was on the mattress with our packs. "we thought it was communal"
we gave them a stern lecture and they pissed off real quick! had to cut our hunt short because of that!