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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDuxbury View Post
    But it doesn't need to be that hot to anneal brass. The candle method works, (though I use a leather glove.) Brass cases candle-annealed and resized to different calibers works, while without the necks crack, so it does make a difference.
    You might find this interesting https://www.ampannealing.com/article...he-microscope/
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    Quote Originally Posted by sneeze View Post
    Do people actually read all that?

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    Those projectiles were made by Winchester for the .22 Rimfire Magnum and were available in bulk packs for a short period in the 1980's.
    Most were purchased for loading .22 Hornet but people also experimented with them (unsuccessfully) in .222 and .223's. They are quite thin in the jacket and break up easily at high velocity.

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    Shot a lot of them at goats out of my 223. Very effective at shorter ranges.

    You could buy these by the kg back in the day

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    Quote Originally Posted by gundoc View Post
    Those projectiles were made by Winchester for the .22 Rimfire Magnum and were available in bulk packs for a short period in the 1980's.
    Most were purchased for loading .22 Hornet but people also experimented with them (unsuccessfully) in .222 and .223's. They are quite thin in the jacket and break up easily at high velocity.
    @gundoc, you are exactly the person who I was waiting a response from. I knew a fella who has been around as long as you, would know the answer. Thanks and best wishes for 2024! Hugh

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    love to be able to get more
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    Quote Originally Posted by sportco62 View Post
    Shot a lot of them at goats out of my 223. Very effective at shorter ranges.

    You could buy these by the kg back in the day
    Thanks sportco62. Yes, back in the day, but cant get them no more apparently. Back at that time I only had the Hornet and 30-06 and 22LR. I did shoot quite a few goats with the Hornet the hornet, but as you say, at shorter ranges. Cheers, Hugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by sneeze View Post
    Man! That is a lot of very scientific engineering information. Thanks sneeze. Cheers, Hugh

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    Re trimming, you can get an attachment to connect a battery drill to the RCBS trimmer, I will see if I can find mine tomorrow. From memory I didn't find it that great. It might be better if doing bulk amounts of brass.
    I will have another go with it and decide whether to lend it to you or give it to you should you be interested in using it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDuxbury View Post
    But it doesn't need to be that hot to anneal brass. The candle method works, (though I use a leather glove.) Brass cases candle-annealed and resized to different calibers works, while without the necks crack, so it does make a difference.
    Sorry. Read the spec sheet. Between 800f too 1400f.
    Or if you like 430c and 760c.
    BTW 1100f is a slight red glow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blip View Post
    I can't remember how long ago, maybe 20yrs or so Richard Wilhelm sold projectiles like that, I bought a few 1000 off him as they were quite cheap.
    The ones I bought were in screw boxes and I think from memory 500 per box, ideal projectile for the Hornet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 19Badger View Post
    I can't remember how long ago, maybe 20yrs or so Richard Wilhelm sold projectiles like that, I bought a few 1000 off him as they were quite cheap.
    The ones I bought were in screw boxes and I think from memory 500 per box, ideal projectile for the Hornet.
    Hello @19Badger yes a couple of people have mentioned Richard Wilhelm, but he shut up shop in 2020 first round ov Covid-19. Apparently did do some TradeMe sails after 2020 but appears to be gone now. Cheers Hugh

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    Well my 40 gr vmax arrived, I loaded three, now to get them to feed into the mag I ended up pushing the projectile down enough to just touch the end, not satisfactory but they did feed beautifully. I did fire them and I must have fired at the wrong spot, I had old spots all over. Anyway get back home and had a brainwave, out with the little pliers and ripped off the red plastic bits,easy peasy, back down to the range and very pleased to get a tight group, but slightly high and 1 1/2 inches to right. Back again to load three more and now with no nose to worry about I seated them longer, back to range and no problem feeding into the chamber, had lots of problems with normal hornet ammo but these babies fed marvellous. Now the longer seating gave me a bigger group but now slightly left of target. Have three more ready to go in the morning.
    Shall play with the seating but the feeding is out of this world for a hornet.
    In case anyone wants to comment on firing the vmax without a plastic tip I shall tell a little story.
    Had a 6.5 in 204 case and got some cheap 85 gr speers, these were damn effective, on wallaby's I shot one in the head at 328 yrs as that's all that was poking out of the gorse, micky ducks fav spot, so I'm not too worried on performance. More tomorrow.
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    What hornet do you have? Never had feeding problems with any of mine

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    Quote Originally Posted by blip View Post
    What hornet do you have? Never had feeding problems with any of mine
    I have two 465s.
    Three more this morning. By seating a little deeper I got an xtra 15 fps. Up from a pedestrian 2135 to a screaming 2150 average.
    I tried feeding from the side as in rifle lying down and then slowly and these vmaxs less the red knob feed flawlessly. Happy chappy.
    Now to sight in at a ton and look out rabbits and others.

 

 

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