Thread: 308 Subsonics

308 subs are great, I used them for a long time

talk to Robert on here about his 151gr cast hollow points and push them with trailboss
they will do everything a subsonic commercial load will do with a far lower price

iv got a 300blk now and subx commercial stuff is super convienient but no where near as quiet as my 165gr Nosler ballistic tip sub load.
mostly because they load it really close to the sound barrier(1050FPS) and it is in the transonic zone If you slow your loads down to 850 they are substantially quieter.
If you fire two shots in a row and find the second far quieter the issue is first round pop, which is the air in the suppressor flashing off and giving a pop on the first shot. the second shot has the benifit of all the oxygen in the suppressor burnt out and dosent suffer the same fate.

a slippery high BC pill like the nosler ballistic tip seems to have far less flight noise than the bull nosed projectiles too. Its just a shame that you can almost re use them after shooting as only the plastic tip breaks off when it hits something going that slow, IE zero expansion

there is a lot going on in the head of an animal, shooting it in the head is not good enough. when I was young I dropped a stag in a paddoc with my 308 150gr softpoint full house supersonic in the head, it regained consiousness and nearly killed me as I was about to cut its throat

having a chart that shows you helps and there are plenty out there for Pigs



I did chest shoot a running pig to stop it killing my elderly bird dog, I think I lucked out and got a Hilar zone shot, it was completly anchored and unable to stand but not dead.
very desperate times using a sub in those suituations but they can do the job just fine if you can put them in the right spot

If you cannot hit a 50c coin every shot at the range you are looking at hunting you need either more practice or to not shoot that far
accuraccy is everything, count on zero expansion and you will do fine