mine seem to sit around the 3100/3200 mark and yes they are the hunting vlds. I will carry on with these until i get my hands on the 195's. i have shot a few tahr from 40 to 600 meters dropping the buggers easy enough. have shot a few deer in the last few weeks and have had no runners either, so happy with them. The 162 amaxs i found very good killers also.
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