Thread: anealing service

Originally Posted by TeRei

How is it too much effort? Drill, propane torch ,socket/adaptor. 5 seconds for 223.

I'm hell of lazy at brass prep and after the ~10-12 firings my brass lasts for it's basically cost nothing anyway

Originally Posted by gimp

I'm hell of lazy at brass prep and after the ~10-12 firings my brass lasts for it's basically cost nothing anyway

Like you in most cases its the easier way to be when its getting say get new brass
Only odd ball cases make it really worth while an in the forming stages

Try 577/450 brass at about $10.00 a case if you can find it. 45/70 about $2.00 I hate losing one

I'm paying $2.20 ish each for 6.5x47

So over ~10 firings it's 22c. I guess if I annealed and say, doubled the brass life (total guess with my nice safe pressure load, not damaging case head/primer pocket - which remains to be seen longer term so far but my old load was loosening them up quite a bit in ~5 firings, also only minimally sizing) I could theoretically save ~$660-880 on brass cost over the life of a barrel (guessing at 3000-4000 rounds) which literally almost pays for a new barrel + fitting.

When my current batch of brass gets there maybe I'll give it a go, worst that can happen is that I have to throw out a heap of brass I was going to toss anyway if it does give inconsistent results

A couple of us went through the exercise of pricing it a couple of years ago
Long story short, NZ Shooters in general, are too tight to pay for a automated, repeatable and accurate annealing of brass - at 10c a piece you would have to do 10k pieces to even pay for the gear and gas let alone labour or turn a profit.
Noone works for free - especially not me!

I designed and started building a machine about 4 years ago - gave up when I found exactly what I wanted to buy.
2 years later, and I still cant get one off the bloody Sepo...

I would go for paying someone with the equipment and a standard process if it is available.

The hand methods I've read about all look pretty hit and miss to me.

Fuck me, it's just annealing, it's not rocket science to get everything even.

Yes, what's the worst that happens if you don't? You've ruined some already ruined brass. Good job, try harder next time.

Originally Posted by gimp

I like the idea of running sane pressures so primer pockets aren't ruined, minimally sizing, and annealing after every so many firings to make my expensive brass last forever

However I don't actually do it as it's too much effort compared to emailing Belmont for more

If you have brass you cant be bothered reloading send unwanted 303, 308, 7.62x39 and 54R my way...all gratefully excepted by the poorish...ie me.

;]

PS primers seem to be getting endangered....

regards

Originally Posted by steven

If you have brass you cant be bothered reloading send unwanted 303, 308, 7.62x39 and 54R my way...all gratefully excepted by the poorish...ie me.

;]

PS primers seem to be getting endangered....

regards

Sorry, I don't own terrible calibres.

Yes primers are going to be in short supply here soon as local supplies dry up and the US ban panic effect from 4 months ago starts to hit us. I've got a few thousand stashed so that'll do me for the moment. Buy everything in bulk, before there is an anticipated shortage. Keeps your price down and you don't run out.

Originally Posted by gimp

Yes primers are going to be in short supply here soon as local supplies dry up and the US ban panic effect from 4 months ago starts to hit us. I've got a few thousand stashed so that'll do me for the moment. Buy everything in bulk, before there is an anticipated shortage. Keeps your price down and you don't run out.

Gimp

Thats exactly why there is shortage.

It's a tail spin effect

People buying in bulk for fear of running out for whatever reason.

Sellers reorder in even greater bulk thinking there's an increase in demand = an increase in profits to be made.

Maunfacturers unable to keep pace with demand creating a real shortage

Panicking people to buy even more and so on.

I got several thousand stashed too.

Buggered if I'm going to miss out.

Cheers
Pete

Originally Posted by P38

Gimp

Thats exactly why there is shortage.

It's a tail spin effect

People buying in bulk for fear of running out for whatever reason.

Sellers reorder in even greater bulk thinking there's an increase in demand = an increase in profits to be made.

Maunfacturers unable to keep pace with demand creating a real shortage

Panicking people to buy even more and so on.

I got several thousand stashed too.

Buggered if I'm going to miss out.

Cheers
Pete

Only when everyone buys at once, because of BANPANIC or whatever. I always buy in bulk for cheapness, haven't bought primers in like 2 years, bought several thousand. Same with .22 ammo, just bought 10k rounds of subs in December, 40% cheaper

Depending on the block that would last me around 1-2 months gimp.

If I can't see 30-40G sitting there it's a shortage.

Originally Posted by gimp

Only when everyone buys at once, because of BANPANIC or whatever. I always buy in bulk for cheapness, haven't bought primers in like 2 years, bought several thousand. Same with .22 ammo, just bought 10k rounds of subs in December, 40% cheaper

What did you pay and what for and where?

Im thinking of buyung at least 5k of 22LR...if there is a decent discount for 10k I'd do that.