I use the 190 Sub-X and find them very accurate in my rifle out to 60 yards but as others have said, perfect shot placement is required.
I only head shoot with them now and I have to be very certain of the shot. As VC said, it takes you into bow hunting territory. The best thing about my load is that all I have to do is dial up 6moa from my supersonic load and I am ready to roll.
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