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As per the heading Nosler have designed a new range of Accubonds especially for long range Hunting/Shooting.
The projectile weights and advertised BC's look promising.
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INTRODUCING the new Accubond Long Range - Sniper's Hide Forums
The BC's certainly look good, how accurate are they though? Hard to see how the 168gr 7mm can be so much higher than the 162 amax or 168 VLD. But the velocity range looks good though, finally a one load for all. Any ideas on price?
Accuracy will depend on the rifle and shooter to some degree. Suitable impact velocity from 1300fps to 3200fps.
This is a starting lineup for their Accubond range, more cals/weights are in development and are apparently being distributed in 100 count boxes so should be a better price than their 50 count predecessors.
The older Accubonds were let down a bit by their on game performance of the 160g 7mm offering at lower velocities and a few guys shied away from them, these should lift the Accubond back into favour.
I would be keen to try them in all calibers. I have some older Accubonds in 338 caliber, 300 grainers ! -and by jove do they smoke redskins !
If we can believe the BC on the 7mm Accubond 175g projectile, and its lower impact velocity suitability, then the 180 Berger (G1 .659 G7 .337) is history.
My accurate comment was how accurate are the BC's rather than the accuracy potential of projectile, sorry badly worded in first post. The 160 accubond has worked well in my 7mm mag, but I haven't used it past 300 yds. One load I could use confidently from 0 - 1000 yds would be great.
Sorry about my wrong reading Stug, went off a little half cocked :)
BC's look very high. Should be awesome. I can see some new load development for a couple of my rifles coming up :)
Those BC's are hard, if not impossible, to believe. Be nice if they are accurate but I seriously doubt it.
I think the same, but Nosler's other BC's are accurate eg the 160 accubond is accurate, so fingers crossed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Proudkiwi
I hope the 175gr 7mm BC is on target... Be a very very good pill :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Proudkiwi
210 30 cal is way high in BC as well the 300RUM will lap those up when I get round to putting the 1:10 barrel back on :)
Maybe I'm just to cynical but how does the saying go - "if it sounds to good to be true....."
They are essentially saying this is the 'perfect' projectile. Mega BC and equally large effective velocity range.
Still, like I said earlier, be nice if it's true.
Gotta try them in the 08 even if the bc wasnt accurate if it is as good as the amax it will be a winner with those velocity ranges.
Dont forget the BC advantage of the delrin tip covering that large meplat, Mr Whidden has been pointing projectiles for years to get the 5-10% BC advantage.
From what I can understand Berger are still not putting a Delrin Tip on their VLD projectiles.
Eric Stecker w/ Berger posted this yesterday on the LR Forum:
For the sake of clarity, the Berger 7mm X Bullets as they have come to be known were developed for a military opportunity that did not pan out. The goal was to produce a 7mm bullet that will stay supersonic at 1 mile (I don't recall at what MV). Since we did not know which design and weight would accomplish this goal we decided to make all three (VLD, tangent or BT and Hybrid). When the dust settled the Hybrid produced the highest BC.
We made short runs of these bullets for testing and spread them around to see how they shoot. Frankly, it was our intension to see which one shot the best. The plan was to add one version to the line and moth ball the other two designs with our other experimental project that did not make it into the line. The problem is all 3 bullets performed well in testing. One design out shot the other two for one tester but not by much and another tester reported that a different design worked best for them.
The 180 gr Hybrid, having the highest BC, is proving to be the front runner so far but it is not head and shoulders above the others. So I am left with two general directions. The first is to stick to the plan to release just one design or to release two or three designs and see what happens. I decided on the later. Unfortunately, we did not have the jackets needed to make more than the initial test quantities. We are making 7mm jackets but they are the standard thickness for the hunting bullets.
We should be finished with these jackets in the next 3-4 weeks and will be switching to the thick jackets as soon as possible. We will be making large quantities of each version and will let all of you decide which 7mm heavy bullet rules the roost. When these bullets become available there will be 5 versions to choose from.
28404 - 7mm 180 gr BT (Medium Tangent Ogive) - G7 = .314
28405 - 7mm 180 gr VLD (Long Secant Ogive) - G7 = .337
28406 - 7mm 182 gr XBT (Extra Long Tangent Ogive) - G7 = .332
28407 - 7mm 180 gr Hyb (Extra Long Hybrid Ogive) - G7 = .345
28408 - 7mm 175 gr XLD (Extra Long Secant Ogive) - G7 = .336
Regards,
Eric
They would make the 270 "good"
Yes, look forward to trying them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wildman
Finally, while my 300RUM is in the process of becoming an EDGE, a frightfully high BC 30cal bullet comes out! :omg:
Ah well the 338 version, when it comes out, had better be good! :thumbsup:
The edge with a the 300 gen II will give the 300 rum a run for its money, and the barrel will last a hell of a lot longer!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich007
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Solid effort :)
haha bit of time on copy paste there james
they where good an accurate on there bcs in there accubonds an BT so fingers crossed, seams to goot to be true tho, i find the accubond kills well anyway
crankin skooled meQuote:
Originally Posted by tui_man2
Normal accubonds were wiked high speed bone drills. Hope these ones live up to the hype/hope
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5x 7mm bullets WHY WHY WHY?!?!
Thats 5x less volume about to be produced, 5x more chance of shortages, and 5x the pain in the arse shorting loads
BLAH!!:O_O:
Currently shooting the 140gr AB/BT @2820 fps and have good performance out of the AB's sub 300 yards - mainly used on Sambar though.
When they arrive in the country (hopefully before I get back) I'll definitely be interested in trying the 150gr in my 7/08 20" tube as a one load for all, wonder what speeds I could squeeze with R17.
Im guessin 2700 plus
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when are these likely to hit nu zulind?
From the states? Thats REAL long range shooting!Quote:
Originally Posted by ARdave
Released end of first quarter in the states next year, so they have them in March, -we can shoot them soon after that!Quote:
Originally Posted by ARdave
Im sure Nosler are aware it would be unwise to introduce a premium line of projectiles for long range Hunting/Shooting with exaggerated BCs. The very first guy to shoot/test them at range would discover the deception and the information would go global in about 3 days.
They got the BC spot on for the 300g 338 cal Accubond (G1 .720) so lets see what happens.
Does the 338 really need a bonded bullet?
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Id say a bonded 338 cal projectile would be useful in the states and other countries where humans are IN the food chain rather than at the top of it, but im sure we could live without one here.
The gen 2 Hybrid 338cal 300g Berger projectile is a heck of a good harvester for most of our NZ game.
Personally I'd like to go hunting in Africa and Alaska one day. So having my 'normal' load for 338 as a bonded bullet that could handle those situations would be cool.
See how much they cost though
Good call, good for everything except elephant, buff, hippo and rhino, I use 150gr ttsx's in my 7mmRM for that reason that they are tough enough for when I do a trip back to Africa and I won't have to change my loads.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich007
The LR Accubonds look like a good option too.
If all is correct, it means I'm going to have to sell my 6.5's and get 270's
Damn.
Jakewire, would you neck a 7 mm rem mag case down to .270 :)
Possibly not.:)
Have you purchased a 270 yet Jakewire?Quote:
Originally Posted by jakewire
Christ don't encourage himQuote:
Originally Posted by 7mmsaum
:thumbsup:
I still can't find these bullets on the Nosler site, maybe I'm looking in the wrong place.
Actually just went and had another gander, are they the ones of various types headed "New"
though I still can't see the 277 cal ones if it is.
Have you found those projectiles yet jakewire?
I'll believe those numbers when my shit turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbertQuote:
Originally Posted by 7mmsaum