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    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    I couldn't see anywhere where there was mention of wearing safety glasses particularly during priming or is that just a given and everyone does?
    I know I should wear safety glasses when priming, but I usually forget.
    I do point the case neck away from me.

    Touch wood I've never had a primer detonate when priming cases.

    Using an Arbor Press I've even unseated a primer that was in the wrong way - then re-seated the primer the right way round.

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    Hows about bushing FL dies - apparently most of the lengthening of the case occurs when dragging the neck back down over the expander ball, which only exists due to the die neck section having to be small enough to allow every thickness of case neck to be sufficiently sized down to allow the expander ball to do it's job.

    So far in my use of bushing dies, I'm seeing much less stretching - does this line up with the experiences of those who also use them? That being the case, my usual routine is:

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    Scrape primer hole and check for crap
    Ultrasonic clean
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    Full length bushing die set for shoulder bump, length check (vernier caliper set to max length) - into LB neck down
    Hand prime, LB neck down
    Drop powder, seat pill, and into LB

    Check each round in rifle usual safety applies.

    Quite interesting how often you pick up a tight one, and the best thing about FL bushing dies is whack the bushing out and a gentle bump to chamber problem solved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    I couldn't see anywhere where there was mention of wearing safety glasses particularly during priming or is that just a given and everyone does?
    The thread is headed, "ORDER OF ACTIONS IN RE LOADING to be considered." with the aim of the actions being confirmed / modified to be a memory aid without going into the specifics of each action. I did add, once others kindly contributed that I did not want to give anybody the impression I was trying to "teach them to blow eggs" or dare I say it, the bleeding obvious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mauser308 View Post
    Hows about bushing FL dies -..................

    Sounds like more Duh opportunities for me and as it's also outside my area of interest, not going to happen..
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    ORDER OF ACTIONS IN RE LOADING to be considered.

    Mauser308, Case lube inside the neck reduces friction and stretching greatly.

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    Greetings All,
    Case stretching due to expander button friction is another myth that refuses to die in spite of testing showing otherwise. The stretching is actually due to the case being sized down in the FL die and the brass has to go somewhere. The expander button can pull the neck out of line with the case. Light lubrication helps with this. It is a natural conclusion, after hearing the noise of the case being pulled over the button and then finding the case to need trimming, to decide the button responsible but testing does not support the conclusion. Neck sized cases seldom need trimming regardless of the expander button. Those that have bushing F L dies usually know how to set them up so cases are not over sized thereby eliminating most of the stretching.
    Regards Grandpamac.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiwi Sapper View Post
    Very droll........:>)
    Step 6: If depleted, apply 40 slaps with a wet salmon!
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    Ok there you go, I've found the bushing dies require a lot less force and are generally more reliable and accurate with the ammo I've loaded - not as available in some calibers though I guess it wouldn't be hard to modify a die body to take a bushing if you have a factory one in front of you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dicko View Post
    Mauser308, Case lube inside the neck reduces friction and stretching greatly.
    As I'm using bushing dies, lube is a sparing wipe of wax over the neck/shoulder only. No expander ball to worry about...

    Also, so far I've found that by sticking with Lapua or milsurp cases of good parentage the necks so far haven't required reaming or turning - and any that do go into the spare part box. Some of the sporting cases are quite crap, oval necks which means that after they come out of the bushing the outside is fully concentric - inside not so much.

    Any other calibers I have that I don't have bushing dies for are cheap enough that reloading isn't really any point (7.62x39 for example).

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    Try a few methods and like jenga, start removing them and see if you even need each one.
    Up until now i've been spoilt using Lapua and i havent needed a pocket uniformer. I bought Norma and every single case needed dropping .003. I hadnt ever looked at it so i loaded them all up and had my very first misfire (dud). So, i fully endorse using a PU but i dont think it needs to be in any real order during case prep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dead is better View Post
    Step 6: If depleted, apply 40 slaps with a wet salmon!
    Sheesh.....that's a bit steep! Have you seen the price of wet salmon nowadays?
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    Rubber salmon and a tap? Bit lighter swing required though, I hear they can do a bit of damage...
    @Dead is better, what exactly needed dropping 0.003 - never found that with Norma before only a little soft and needs to be babied to get the life out of it...

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    the wet salmon may be exchanged for a 60 mins detailed "education" with Eugenie Sage.

 

 

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