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    Question To reload or to not reload

    Bear with me, this could get long winded but I SHALL STRIVE for brevity, wish me luck!
    One of the issues I find with .243 being my preferred calibre is that there are waaay less boxes of ammo available, virtually everywhere I look.

    My preferred ammo is Winchester Deer Season 95 grain 3100 fps (the Franchi loves it, Hated Fiocchi, go figure) mostly because the Franchi and I are mostly consistent with it and when I shoot something it goes bang/flop...this is good as I have to work hard enough to get to the deer without spending another 4 hours chasing it all over Otago whilst it bleeds out!

    Everytime I drop into one of the usual suspects to resupply, they are, to a man, out of stock and have to order it in....which takes one to two weeks, depending on where in their ordering cycle they are, this is a pain in the proverbial!
    I've tried a box of Win 100g Super X (which most shops reliably have in stock ) and I didn't like it so much

    Now my question, finally is this, if I chose to go down the reloading route (which has it's own appeal outside of this particular issue) is it reasonable for me to expect that I could produce a round that behaves as well as or (dreams are free, better than) the ammo I use currently?
    Once I've bought the necessary gear, how much cheaper is it actually than buying factory ammo, cos like real estate, that stuff only goes up in price!
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    Get someone to reload 50 or 100 rounds for you

    It’s easy enough to do

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    Reloading is like painting you ether love it or hate it. I hate painting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flock View Post
    Reloading is like painting you ether love it or hate it. I hate painting.
    I don't mind painting, it's one of the less physically demanding "jobs" I get to do!
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    Yip.get someone to do it for you in bulk.better still you buy the bits n they "help you" do it...that way you get your ammo and dip toes in reloading at same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micky Duck View Post
    Yip.get someone to do it for you in bulk.better still you buy the bits n they "help you" do it...that way you get your ammo and dip toes in reloading at same time.
    I'm more of a "dive in head first" kinda guy
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    Convincing yourself that reloading is cheaper than buying ammo is the first mistake. Once you start reloading, the availability of factory ammo becomes less relevant, and the purchasing of not-so-common calibres more prevalent.

    I got into reloading when 7mm08 ammo was scarce during Covid and I don't regret it.
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    Enlist someone that already has the gear and use there's a big outlay if ur only loading for 1 caliber
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    Or join a range that has the gear.
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    Depending on how meticulous you are, you may be able to significantly increase the accuracy by hand loading. It also depends on how accurate your best factory ammo is. For example, I find it hard to handload better than factory Lapua 6.5x55 156gr. What size groups (5 shot/100m) do you currently achieve?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rupert View Post
    Depending on how meticulous you are, you may be able to significantly increase the accuracy by hand loading. It also depends on how accurate your best factory ammo is. For example, I find it hard to handload better than factory Lapua 6.5x55 156gr. What size groups (5 shot/100m) do you currently achieve?
    My grouping at 100m over 5 shots is yet to be determined as I've not been properly setup on the 2 occasions I've made it to the range, so I'll let you know on that one. Barretta claim sub 1 MOA on the Franchi but then there's me, lol, I'll come back to you on this as a range visit is due
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    Buy 100 cases, 100 LRP, 2209 and stack em with 85gr Sierra GMK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeRei View Post
    Buy 100 cases, 100 LRP, 2209 and stack em with 85gr Sierra GMK.
    Sounds great although even though you used english words...I've no idea what you actually said....apart from 85g
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    "Everytime I drop into one of the usual suspects to resupply, they are, to a man, out of stock and have to order it in....which takes one to two weeks, depending on where in their ordering cycle they are, this is a pain in the proverbial!" That is when I first thought about reloading. And if it becomes unavailable to.
    Then use up ammo trying new ammo then sighting in. And cost was the other.

    Over here, reloaded ammo is about half cost, or perhaps 40%. That's just the components etc. I've never regretted it.

    My advice,
    Start looking for components at good prices now. 2208 is popular and there is a steady supply. Pick a bullet that is popular and plentiful. An of the major brands, Gordy, Speer Sierra, all Mae good bullets.
    Keep all your cases.
    Start looking for good used equipment. Buy decent gear, but don't go mad and buy the best, for hunting ammo Lee is good value.
    Some of it is easy to make if your that way inclined. There is a diy thread here I started.
    Look for a mentor, even if it's just a occasional pH call.
    You will also need a bench or solid table.

    At a guess It will take a few years for you to get your money back on your gear. And I'll take up some of your time.

    You will never look back
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldbloke View Post
    "Everytime I drop into one of the usual suspects to resupply, they are, to a man, out of stock and have to order it in....which takes one to two weeks, depending on where in their ordering cycle they are, this is a pain in the proverbial!" That is when I first thought about reloading. And if it becomes unavailable to.
    Then use up ammo trying new ammo then sighting in. And cost was the other.

    Over here, reloaded ammo is about half cost, or perhaps 40%. That's just the components etc. I've never regretted it.

    My advice,
    Start looking for components at good prices now. 2208 is popular and there is a steady supply. Pick a bullet that is popular and plentiful. An of the major brands, Gordy, Speer Sierra, all Mae good bullets.
    Keep all your cases.
    Start looking for good used equipment. Buy decent gear, but don't go mad and buy the best, for hunting ammo Lee is good value.
    Some of it is easy to make if your that way inclined. There is a diy thread here I started.
    Look for a mentor, even if it's just a occasional pH call.
    You will also need a bench or solid table.

    At a guess It will take a few years for you to get your money back on your gear. And I'll take up some of your time.

    You will never look back
    Hearing you, I think a big part of it for me is giving my tech head an outlet that produces something, I can be a bit of a detail freak and reloading would seem to require some of that. Cost of gear isn't an issue. As a builder I've spent tens of thousands of dollars on buying "kit"...it's always an investment imo, thanks for your thoughts, they make a lot of sense
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