Thread: Reloading brass hulls for an English Black powder s/b/s 12 gauge.

Originally Posted by norsk

Put the ball in the palm of your hand,pour enough powder over the ball to just cover it. That's your starting load..........

This as a start for APN 70 as well as B.P? I ask because I cannot find a red dot / APN conversion rate.

Norsk is right that is a good go to with an unmetered powder flask round balls seem to need more powder than an equivalent weight bullet does. I use 80 grains of 2f in the muzzle loader, and in a single shot shotgun 22 grains of red dot smokeless as I've got a big tin of it and it needs to go somewhere.

No No No covering the ball IS ONLY FOR BLACK POWDER NEVER SMOKELESS.
Red dot is faster than ap 70 and looking in my books ap 70n matches unique. My old notes show 26 gr of unique was a load I used with 1 1/4 Oz of shot. A 12 gauge ball weight is about the same but use with caution.
A round ball generally produces lower pressures than a shot charge of similar weight due to the reduced bearing surface and reduced friction,

Originally Posted by Marty Henry

No No No covering the ball IS ONLY FOR BLACK POWDER NEVER SMOKELESS................,

thanks for the clarification and I will continue to "overthinK, in the gray areas I encounter.

Originally Posted by Kiwi Sapper

thanks for the clarification and I will continue to "overthinK, in the gray areas I encounter.

You are being obtuse.

If you seriously thought you could substitute Smokeless to Black powder in equal quantities, then I question your suitability to own firearms in general.

I have given you some practical information on this thread that I myself have used.If you don't like the way it was delivered,stop asking or place me on ignore.

go back and read #2 ........equal volume BP and lead shot.......

They will be fine.

Brass is a lot stronger than Plastic

It's 63 gauge. However i dont think many gun shops would know what you meant if you asked for a box of them.

and MANY modern .12ga arent really .12ga anymore as they are overbored so closer to what was traditionally a .10ga

but correct they still fire same shells just have little if any forcing cone so pattern nicely and have lower pressure.......you can do same thing if making .410 insert for your larger shotgun....use same drill bit right through...its VERY close to 1/2" pipe diameter...but we wont go into how I know this or will be called redneck AGAIN....

its not a decimal point...its a bit of #12 lead shot that just rolled there.......seem to have lots of them around the place.....lol.......