Thread: Sub-sonic 308 loads

Originally Posted by Beavis

True that. I just remember seeing somebody on arfcom use them out of a .300Blk on deer, seemed to do the biz

Dont get me wrong, they will prob kill ok, but I dont think you can safely say that reliable expansion is achieved.

Originally Posted by PerazziSC3

amax is what i was thinking, also i dont think the tumbling projectile would be much of an issue, will probably make a better wound channel as long as accuracy was "acceptable" for close range shooting

The trouble with tumbling is they often only upset a bit then piss off in the wrong direction.
Used to get that with my old 303 with no rifleing left, shoot shoulder goes threw guts and ends up in hind quarter.

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Originally Posted by Spanners

Dont get me wrong, they will prob kill ok, but I dont think you can safely say that reliable expansion is achieved.

Roger that

Originally Posted by Spanners

I wonder if I could push them through my jacket serrater die to weaken the jacket enough?

I would be keen to try them but will probably just wait the 6 odd weeks until you start pumping out your own projectiles. no rush just thought it would be an interesting project

Originally Posted by Spanners

I wonder if I could push them through my jacket serrater die to weaken the jacket enough?

Maybe, can't be tested until its tested.
Sst is thinner in the front portion than amax could be worth a go

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I'd be prepared to do the mods on the pills if someone was to make a simple punch..

LEHigh in the USA make expanding subsonic projectiles using a deep hollow point which takes a payload 17caliber projectiledown inside it. Google it.

Originally Posted by Spanners

I'd be prepared to do the mods on the pills if someone was to make a simple punch..

Im pretty simple. Should be able to sort something out

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Spanners let me know if you do make some, i'd be keen as to buy some.

I've been using 240gr SMK's with unspectacular results.

Kj

Not this but next weekend I have some home kill pigs and a ram to do for some friends, Il take the old mans suppressed 308 and the 90gr xtp sub loads and a camera

Hi cam.

I've found head shots are fine with any subsonic (from .22lr to 240SMK's) on any animal from sheep to cows... but body shots are a different story. I've only shot a hsndful of goats with the SMK's and they weren't bang-flops. I used to use a .38spl with hollow point 158gr flat noses snd shot thousands of goats with that one and had similar results.

Be real keen to see a bullet that can do body shots with bang-flop results (or close to it).

Kj

I wouldn't expect bang flop with anything other than brain or spine shot. Wouldn't think it could transfer enough shock.

What i expect is basicly like being shot with a bow with a quality broad head. Or if no expansion a field point.

So your bow hunting with another 30 -40 yards extra effective range.

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I wa using 8gr of trailboss behind a 150 gr projectile in a 7.62X39 on goats. Had to be within 50m or they only break ribs and not penetrate. Sold that rifle and will be moving up to 458 subs

Spanners you reckon you could make something like these?
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As in a payload bullet? I have a punch sorted for 17 in a lead core jacketed RBBT
Those brass pills rely on on fracturing. If the wings fall off (which they do) you basically have a solid.
Copper would be a far better material for a sub monolithic however still a lot harder than lead.