Welcome guest, is this your first visit? Create Account now to join.
  • Login:

Welcome to the NZ Hunting and Shooting Forums.

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed.

Alpine ZeroPak


User Tag List

+ Reply to Thread
Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
Results 16 to 28 of 28
Like Tree15Likes

Thread: What components do I need?

  1. #16
    Member Cartman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    wanaka
    Posts
    2,051
    Yea federal bluebox dont set the bar to high on quality. You've got the gear reload to the rifle

  2. #17
    Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Location
    Wellington
    Posts
    1,786
    Ive never used federal brass, mostly because its quality and the amount of preparation its said is needed to clean it up outweigh the savings IMHO.

    If its just hunting at short ranges I'd even suggest barnual steel cased, its hard to load for less than that price (87cents each).

    Speaking of barnaul they do projectiles, very cheaply, 24cents for 140gr sp....worth trying 100 IMHO.

    In saying this when a mate got a 6.5tikka and with fed ammo it cloverleafed at 100m....I was very impressed for out of the box(es)...brand new.

    I use Federal 210 primers at the moment, mostly because choices are limited, match grade are hard to get and twice the price.

    ADI 2208 and ADI 2206H seem popular for a 308...mild loads...what ever the safe min load is start there and load 5, load 5 0.5gr higher and another 5 0.5gr higher again. Go shoot them see how those do, watch for quished primers or other stress. If the heavier loads are getting better try higher.

    I would certainly try both 2208 and 2206H most target shooters use one or other of these.

    I would be interested in what load you find, most ppl I talk to find a similar load works.

    btw an ADI reloading manual is $8 and the Lee Manual about $35...I use these 2.

    Wear safety glasses, have fun!!!
    "I do not wish to be a pawn or canon fodder on the whims of MY Government"

  3. #18
    Almost literate. veitnamcam's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Nelson
    Posts
    24,803
    With the 150 interlock id put money on you ending up at 46-47gr 2208 at any reasonable seating depth and being very happy.
    "Hunting and fishing" fucking over licenced firearms owners since ages ago.

    308Win One chambering to rule them all.

  4. #19
    5.56 AzumitH's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Hamilton
    Posts
    366
    Ok so went shopping this morning. Picked up a bottle/tub of AR2208, some CCI BR2 primers (not much choice) and Nosler Accubond 165gr projectiles (150gr seem to be thin on the ground also).

    Will do some reading and find some starting points.

    Should probably also look into getting a chrono, as I will need it when I start loading for my in-progress rifle and it will certainly be useful for this.

  5. #20
    Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    in the middle of the bottom of the south
    Posts
    427
    Interbonds are a fairly tough projectile. May I suggest you load them fairly fast if you can so they dont pencil clean thru the animal and have it run off,
    All orther things being equal, the tougher the projectile the faster you can run them and the 165 interbond is probabaly mor appropriate for the faster speeds of the 300wm.
    the other thing is, to aim for heavy bone. Well forward on the front shoulder or spine shots will work well with that type of projectile.
    greg
    veitnamcam, AzumitH and BRADS like this.

  6. #21
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Dannevirke, southern Ruahines
    Posts
    5,072
    Quote Originally Posted by AzumitH View Post
    Ok so went shopping this morning. Picked up a bottle/tub of AR2208, some CCI BR2 primers (not much choice) and Nosler Accubond 165gr projectiles (150gr seem to be thin on the ground also).

    Will do some reading and find some starting points.

    Should probably also look into getting a chrono, as I will need it when I start loading for my in-progress rifle and it will certainly be useful for this.
    Hey mate put your name on the North Island chrony list and you will have one at your disposal fairly soon as there is one guy after me at this point.Good luck.

  7. #22
    Top Member Remington 5R .300 Win Mag's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    Obviously A Different Planet To The One You Bastards Are On!
    Posts
    303
    Quote Originally Posted by AzumitH View Post
    Thanks for your thoughts.

    The only reason I was hoping for similar ballistics was so I could shoot factory or reloaded ammo with the same zero, but I'm starting to think it may be better just to focus on doing the best reloaded rounds I can, even if they shoot differently.
    Yeah, I thought when you said "you're new to reloading", that you don't really want to replicate factory ammo! With my Remington 5R in .300 Win Mag, I can get my groups down from 3-1/2" at 100m (Factory Ammo) to 1-1/2" at 100m (handloads), so that tightens them up considerably! plus I'm gaining 200fps over factory!

  8. #23
    Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Christchurch
    Posts
    64
    Quote Originally Posted by longrange308 View Post
    a dont think you will match the round but 2208 would be a good start, easy to get
    any reason you want soft points? lots of better projos around
    Better than soft points in what way, are you talking about FMJ as all sporting rounds are soft points. You have soft points with plastic tips otherwise known as crap projectiles, hollow points are also fitted with plastic tips and are not much better as they are sharp and make holes in the pocket of your shorts. There is also the lead tipped soft points which are probably the most effective for New Zealand hunting.

    The mono metal projectiles are only better for the manufacturer as they have the opportunity to take money off the losers they convince that they are better. The old marketing adage of "if you can't blind them with science just baffle them with bullshit" applies in this case. These are all about perceived value, nothing to do with performance. Just making money off suckers you can hoodwink. I know because this is what I do for a job. Convincing suckers to shell out more money than they need to by convincing them they are getting an imaginary benefit. We laugh every time we take these idiots for a ride and count the money going in our pockets.

    That is the unfortunate truth with our modern economic system but it works and gives me the money to spend on hunting.

  9. #24
    Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    Christchurch
    Posts
    4,467
    will remember not to buy furniture form you
    BRADS likes this.

  10. #25
    Member BRADS's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Central Hawkes Bay
    Posts
    9,288
    Quote Originally Posted by 260hunter View Post
    Better than soft points in what way, are you talking about FMJ as all sporting rounds are soft points. You have soft points with plastic tips otherwise known as crap projectiles, hollow points are also fitted with plastic tips and are not much better as they are sharp and make holes in the pocket of your shorts. There is also the lead tipped soft points which are probably the most effective for New Zealand hunting.

    The mono metal projectiles are only better for the manufacturer as they have the opportunity to take money off the losers they convince that they are better. The old marketing adage of "if you can't blind them with science just baffle them with bullshit" applies in this case. These are all about perceived value, nothing to do with performance. Just making money off suckers you can hoodwink. I know because this is what I do for a job. Convincing suckers to shell out more money than they need to by convincing them they are getting an imaginary benefit. We laugh every time we take these idiots for a ride and count the money going in our pockets.

    That is the unfortunate truth with our modern economic system but it works and gives me the money to spend on hunting.
    Wow so you tried say an amax against a core lock?
    And found no difference at all???

  11. #26
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Dannevirke, southern Ruahines
    Posts
    5,072
    Quote Originally Posted by 260hunter View Post
    Better than soft points in what way, are you talking about FMJ as all sporting rounds are soft points. You have soft points with plastic tips otherwise known as crap projectiles, hollow points are also fitted with plastic tips and are not much better as they are sharp and make holes in the pocket of your shorts. There is also the lead tipped soft points which are probably the most effective for New Zealand hunting.

    The mono metal projectiles are only better for the manufacturer as they have the opportunity to take money off the losers they convince that they are better. The old marketing adage of "if you can't blind them with science just baffle them with bullshit" applies in this case. These are all about perceived value, nothing to do with performance. Just making money off suckers you can hoodwink. I know because this is what I do for a job. Convincing suckers to shell out more money than they need to by convincing them they are getting an imaginary benefit. We laugh every time we take these idiots for a ride and count the money going in our pockets.

    That is the unfortunate truth with our modern economic system but it works and gives me the money to spend on hunting.
    At least you have the balls to declare you are a fucking scum bag by what you have just written but because you wrote it we don't believe you know what your are talking about anymore.because you have used truth and bullshit in the same stupid post.Do you sell projectiles? make them? or just think you know ? or are you trying to hoodwink us into believing your smart?.all hunting projectiles kill animals effectively as long as they hit there mark IMO
    PerazziSC3, Toby and BRADS like this.

  12. #27
    Almost literate. veitnamcam's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Nelson
    Posts
    24,803
    Its all about impact velocity.
    Match the projectile to the impact velocity and the intended range and you will be a happy man.
    "Hunting and fishing" fucking over licenced firearms owners since ages ago.

    308Win One chambering to rule them all.

  13. #28
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Dannevirke, southern Ruahines
    Posts
    5,072
    Quote Originally Posted by veitnamcam View Post
    Its all about impact velocity.
    Match the projectile to the impact velocity and the intended range and you will be a happy man.
    Now.... that I can believe VC!!

 

 

Similar Threads

  1. Where can I get cheap .223 components?
    By Savage1 in forum Reloading and Ballistics
    Replies: 15
    Last Post: 25-02-2013, 12:18 AM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Welcome to NZ Hunting and Shooting Forums! We see you're new here, or arn't logged in. Create an account, and Login for full access including our FREE BUY and SELL section Register NOW!!