Some 175 targex for the 3006, using Belmont 763, next to check the rings and scope then re zero the unique as it was dropped during a hare shoot and missed everything afterwards
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Some 175 targex for the 3006, using Belmont 763, next to check the rings and scope then re zero the unique as it was dropped during a hare shoot and missed everything afterwards
Today I'll be converting 200 factory primed 7.62x39 steel Norinco cases to 6.5 Grendel.....easy as, & makes shooting the Grendel a lot more pleasurable when one doesn't have to worry about cost of shells. Just flick them out into the grass & keep chasing the goats.
I'd like to try them on Wally jumpers to see how effective the cal was.
Steel reloading is just as easy as brass.....but cheaper.
Handloaders in Christchurch. 25,50,75,100 covered (shooting inside) and 200m outsideQuote:
Originally Posted by Hugh Shields
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I asked this elsewhere..no reply.... what sort of pressure are those steel cases rated for??? same as or more than brass??? do they ever just "let go"....hope they go well for you...would be interesting round on wallabies indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tararua Phil
Greetings @Micky Duck,Quote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
As far as I am aware the steel cases are not rated for higher pressure than brass. They are just a cheaper material for cases. Cases from different manufacturers could be quite different in hardness and more important ductility. I doubt if reloadability was high on the manufacturers list of importance.
Regards Grandpamac.
Not sure on the pressure specs, but have found that they've given me no problems in the field (29gns of original 7.62 x39 powder behind a 90gnhp Nosler TNT for about 2850 fps) & hold together well....no letting go @ all. In the USA they get factory steel cased ammo shooting 100gn fmj/sp that were/are manufactured originally in the Combloc countries so have used that as a baseline quality control measure. There is a ytube listing that shows a Brunel hardness testing experiment that shows that the hardness of brass & steel are about the same (I'll see if I can find it & put it up) & I've found the resizing effort is also about the same. I can reload the steel 3-4x before I get split necks, but normally when I have to follow up game quickly I just leave the steel shells on the ground.Quote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
Accuracy is still good enough for me (1.5-2inch & 100yds) through my Howa Mini action stainless.
If anyone wants to try a few I can send some pre primed shells for you to try.....you pay post or call me on 027 7175260.
Phil.
Loaded a few 300 Win Mag, 178 gr ELDX over 2217, also sized and trimmed some 243, 6.5 x 55. Still got some 30 06 , 300 Rum, 303 to do. Always find something to do at the reloading bench.
The .277fury is why I asked ......
I believe Hornady training the one with the steel case ran at between 55, and 60,000 psi so they can take some pressure. I used quite a bit of wolf and Barnaul 223 before it became unobtainable. Only the wolf was boxer primed and I reloaded a few out if interest, no different to brass is my recollection. I do remember whatever they lacquered them with was good stuff, a week in a damp pack and no rust and they all went off
Prepped and primed 60 Sako 7mm rem mag cases today.....such a lot of work but so satisfying :cool:
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Playing with some old Lapura 185gr D46 projectiles in the faithful 308 - Started working with 44.8gr of 2208, ladder testing up to 46gr but without showing any signs of pressure & 2715fps (SD 7.8 ES 15). Managed to see 0.55MOA at 600 yards without testing seating depth either!
Feeling the need for speed so will be working up to 47gr till we start seeing pressure signs or hit 2900-3000 fps.
100 rounds 30 gram 7s for pigeon shooting
2900 with a 185gr in 308. That's smoking
What barrel length?Quote:
Originally Posted by dnsn
Haven't loaded anything today, but did de-prime 599 Lapua Palma 308 cases on Monday.
Next step anneal, then wax & size, then clean.
Final steps prime, powder and projectile - then shoot 'em again.
26”Quote:
Originally Posted by Shearer
I doubt it will get that high as I’m too stubborn to change powders, and expect to just stay between high 2700- low 2800 range as I’d like it to be staying supersonic at 1000 yards for electronic targets. D46’s don’t have a great BC so it does drop some off.
Threw together some test loads together today and found something that should work easily enough despite not much info out there. I'll put another handful together and check repeatability next week.
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143 grain 6.5 Norma Bondstrikes in the SAUM, sitting over a fairly mild load (59 grains) of 2217.
Looks to be the goods, especially after unexplained projectile problems with 147 eldm. Which were a shame, cause .697 bc is pretty neat....
What issues did you have with the 147 ELDMQuote:
Originally Posted by Ross Nolan
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They're a lot longer than the 143's so their ass is back in the powder. Not so great
I started sorting and preparing 22 Hornet brass at Easter. Now I've got close to 400 primed case RTG after lunch. It will be interesting to see how many I can get done this afternoon ready for goose culling tomorrow night. Attachment 247628
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I had one impact 2m low at 480m, and the occasional weird flyer at 100. The rifle would shoot 16-20mm for 5 shots, then toss one out anywhere up to 80mm away. Reading online this has been a problem with the 147 when launched at 3000 fps or thereabouts in some rifles. I know another user here has had some blow up on the way to the target.Quote:
Originally Posted by 25/08 IMP
I think it is to do with the individual barrel rather than being an issue for every barrel, but I'm honest enough with myself to know when something is a me problem and when it is an external source problem.
65rounds of 73g Eldm 223, 2206H and Federal 210 primers. Hope fully in the next couple of weeks I will load the remaining 70 223 ends and 50rnds of 308
165g TGK with 2206H and federal large primers.
I loaded 7 64gr game changers with 25.5gr 2206H and cci 450 primers, also 27 77gr TMK's with 23.5gr 2206H and cci 450 primers just to top up my 50 round deer medicine.
Should keep me going for a couple of years.
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Yesterday but yeah loaded these beautys 40x 166gn A-Tips
The green tips are factory Sako Blade 140gn
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Formed a few more 8.6 Blackout cases ready to go.
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Neck turning an absolute necessity because of how thick the necks come out. Time consuming. But pretty.
Loaded a few with 400gr fp over 75gr AR2206H.
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For Elephants raiding the village crops ..... ? ;):DQuote:
Originally Posted by john m
7 Prc - tested Reloader 26 and IMR7828 - Not impressed by the results from the RL, but the 7828 has got my interest.
Some 223s, a number of 6mm Dasher rounds and of course some 243 and 308win.
Found my Saum cases to be a bit tired so I junked them - now to find some more.
243W loads with 4 different powders ( AR2208, AR2209, RL17, AR2213sc ) with Sierra TGK 90 gns, a new bullet to me. Will shoot these when next at the range hoping at least one looks to have development potential.
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Greetings All,
GPM finally got out to the shed today to do some preliminary loads for load development for a friends .308. A few rounds were assembled with 150 grain Interlocks and the last of my old lot of AR2206H to use as fouling shots. I have not done this previously but why not. Next two rounds each using the 150 grain SST and 44 grains of AR2206H and 45 grains of AR2208. These will be shot for velocity and not for group. The idea is to validate the load data that I am working with. AR2206H has been used extensively in my .308 and other rifles so there is a good level of data here already but this is a new lot so a test is needed. AR2208 has been used in other calibres but not the .308. The test cases are R-P. Hopefully the test rounds will be shot and chronographed at a range day on Saturday and further testing during next week.
Regards Grandpamac.
Greetings All,
GPM finally got out to the shed today to do some preliminary loads for load development for a friends .308. A few rounds were assembled with 150 grain Interlocks and the last of my old lot of AR2206H to use as fouling shots. I have not done this previously but why not. Next two rounds each using the 150 grain SST and 44 grains of AR2206H and 45 grains of AR2208. These will be shot for velocity and not for group. The idea is to validate the load data that I am working with. AR2206H has been used extensively in my .308 and other rifles so there is a good level of data here already but this is a new lot so a test is needed. AR2208 has been used in other calibres but not the .308. The test cases are R-P. Hopefully the test rounds will be shot and chronographed at a range day on Saturday and further testing during next week.
Regards Grandpamac.
Got a new sako 708 I’ve been playing with. It shot sub moa with my old tikkas hand loads at 2705fps with the 140 bt. So I’m wanting a bit more speed so had a box of Barnes TTSx 120 gns sitting around. Pressure tested three loads up to book max. No pressure with book max so loaded up 6 and sighted her in at 100yds. The hole on the far right is a screw hole. Few clicks left and I’m pretty happy. 2970 fps Es 22 SD 9 for 5 shots through the chrony. Off hunting this weekend hopefully - wx pending
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Sorry 45 gns of 2208 , Remington brass , Fed 210 primers and 12ogn TTSX barnes
loaded NOTHING
but did go into gunworks shop and bought single tray of large rifle primers....man that place has a HUGE selection of projectiles and powder..picked up a tub of lilgun but at just over $100 it got put back down again..... I dont use bugger all of it and still got some left.
Loaded 25 rounds of .223. Hornady cases, fed 205 primers, 25gr of 2206H and the similarly magic 65gr serria gameking - a very accurate projectiles.
Had some issues with my lee hand primer...it's a very annoying tool.
Forming cases and loading for the .30 badger,
Loading 2.2 grns of 700x, 175 grn cast sized to .309.
Project rifle nearly finished, waiting for the shops to open tomorrow to buy a 11mm end mill to cut rim of extractor.
Any body else loading this cartridge?Attachment 248731
2.2 gns of powder ??Quote:
Originally Posted by Skeetshooter
What's the lethal range of this cartridge ?
Unknown at this stage,
Aiming for it to be subsonic, From the Lyman cast bullet book that load should be approx 950 fps,that's based on the data for same bullet in 32 20,
That 2.2 grns half fills the case,
From what I've read of it in the states they load them up around 2000fps and shoot small deer with them.
For me it will be a cheap to load plinker.
I've fired approx 30 shots, I can tell you it gets to the target at 50mtrs very quickly
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Loaded a few 150gr game changers with 69.5gr AR2217 and winchester large magnum primers for the 7mm rem mag.
Shoots 1 inch @ 100 meters with very little load developement so could well do better with a bit of tweeking.
