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    @grandpamac Thank you so much. I've got a heap of Highland/PPU brass that has been shot through this rifle. Funny; like a dork I bought a set of full length dies by mistake! I saw the dipper in the ad and automatically thought it was a Lee Loader without reading the ad properly... Dumb-arse moment.... However; the dies have the new 2.8g spoon and charge page which is helpful. I am still thinking about getting a press so will keep the dies in case I have to do the occasional FL re-size. If not; I'll sell them. Here's the new charge sheet

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamsav View Post
    Gee CheekiBreeki ,talk about digging a hole for yourself. I just been looking at your recent post history ......not good .
    In my actual experience mimms is correct about individual rifles preferring different bullet weights .
    This fact is not specific to 303's ( although they are fussy in their old age ) and is generally well known to experianced shooters/reloaders .
    Neither is mimms history, he's a trashy POS, always has been going back years by the look of it.

    My experience differs in reloading, because I actually apply modern techniques and don't just load to one seating depth for all projectiles..

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    Quote Originally Posted by bumblefoot View Post
    @grandpamac Thank you so much. I've got a heap of Highland/PPU brass that has been shot through this rifle. Funny; like a dork I bought a set of full length dies by mistake! I saw the dipper in the ad and automatically thought it was a Lee Loader without reading the ad properly... Dumb-arse moment.... However; the dies have the new 2.8g spoon and charge page which is helpful. I am still thinking about getting a press so will keep the dies in case I have to do the occasional FL re-size. If not; I'll sell them. Here's the new charge sheet

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    Greetings Bumblefoot,
    I would definitely hang on to those FL dies. With them you only need to find someone with a press. FL sizing for a .303 takes some care. You only want to size the case just enough to chamber and no more. I start with the die a couple of turns away form the shell holder and turn the die down about 1/8 of a turn at a time until the case just chambers and no more. This is the key to decent case life with the .303. I was without a .303 in my cupboard for almost 40 years but still kept my dies. You just never know when you might need them.
    Regards Grandpamac.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CheekiBreeki View Post
    Oh yeah I am 100% a vindictive cunt, especially when another cunt (mimms2) decides to ambush my posts elsewhere and then suggests I compost myself. Go look at his post history - he's an alcoholic nutbag who wants to burn down cellphone towers.

    The other thing is that this is just old timer lore, and it's not true for even the .303 with decent reloading practices and technique. The posting of every weight of .312" projectile bar 125grain just showed how useless it was, that's literally NO help what so ever to someone trying to buy componentry to start reloading for the cartridge- should the OP just buy every type of 0.312" diameter projectile commercially available in NZ?

    Honestly the best starting point is 174 - 180 gr as that's the sweet spot for a 1:10 twist .303 and with playing with powder volumes in smaller and smaller increments and seating depth the OP could realistically expect to get less than 2MOA with almost any projectile, which would probably be the best that could be hoped for without decent glass or pressure bedding and a scope.

    He could also have pointed out something useful, like that full length sizing is probably not the way to go for brass life and that the OP should invest in a collet type neck sizing die. It's the best option if you don't go to an improved chamber like .303 Epps or similar that headspaces on the shoulder rather than the rim.
    You also could have just pointed out that useful info you just added and said that. I would have learned something.

    Its pretty simple to say I disagree and its possible to agree with someone on 1 thing and disagree on another. For example I have never found a rifle that shows any serious preference for an particular bullet weight unless it cant stabilize it. I personally think its usually how lucky you get with you starting seating depth. I may be wrong however and have got lucky but I've run 155s to 225s in the same 308 and 120s to 180s in 7mm08'and all would shoot similar groups once i got to playing with seating depth. So i kind of disagree with/am skeptical off those saying they have a strong preference but i dont go attack them as i dont know I just haven't found it to be true.

    Regardless both of you seem to be at each others throats after reading your recent histories. How about keeping your squabbles to the threads they started in and try be civil in any others you happen to see each other or even better block each other as i cant see a mutual understanding happening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grandpamac View Post
    Greetings Bumblefoot,
    I would definitely hang on to those FL dies. With them you only need to find someone with a press. FL sizing for a .303 takes some care. You only want to size the case just enough to chamber and no more. I start with the die a couple of turns away form the shell holder and turn the die down about 1/8 of a turn at a time until the case just chambers and no more. This is the key to decent case life with the .303. I was without a .303 in my cupboard for almost 40 years but still kept my dies. You just never know when you might need them.
    Regards Grandpamac.
    This is great info and just what I was going to post when I saw you fretting about having brought full length dies.
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    One of my ex bosses once said about arguments /discussions is to keep the name calling and abuse out of it as the abuse and name calling is all the other person will remember and get nothing positive out of the experience .
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    @grandpamac Yup; I'd probably just get a Lee Anniversary kit or similar. I just like basic stuff that gets the job done Plus; I'm really ony reloading for the fun and would never go through a heap of rounds because I'm not into target shooting etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bumblefoot View Post
    @grandpamac Yup; I'd probably just get a Lee Anniversary kit or similar. I just like basic stuff that gets the job done Plus; I'm really ony reloading for the fun and would never go through a heap of rounds because I'm not into target shooting etc.
    Or even more convenient (and less expensive) as a starting point is the Lee Hand Press, these are great and don't require a dedicated stand or bench. I started with one and it was capable of resizing much larger and thicker cases than .303 british (6.5x55 and .270 Win. Short Magnum to begin with) and produced ammo that was as accurate as what I'm currently producing with a nice Lyman Crusher Press. I did end up buying a 2nd hand beam scale and trimming gear etc but I used that setup for a few years until I made a little portable bench for the rumpus room and bought a bench press.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stocky View Post
    Going to be honest you just seem like a plain c@*t. But you literally posted something that is not useful in any world bitching about his post being useless. Its pretty simple all he's adding is that they tend to have a preference for a weight class which I dont often find true in modern cartridges. Just means check a range of weights before going down the rabbit hole.
    When handloading modern cartridges, it isn't.

    When (as to the purpose of this thread) you're handloading for an enfield, as I initially stated, the usually prefer one projectile weight.
    (Also, for that dipshit, comonly available .311 and .312 projos start about 123gn and go up to 220. I believe a 1/4oz fishing sinker also fits the hole.)
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    As regards seating depth on an enfield, they usually have 100 years of throat erosion and I've never found one I could seat to the lands. Thus the statement to load to mag length.

    Gee cheeki, you been googling your ass off on 303 brit? Yesterday you didn't even load for one...hang in there you might learn something yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CheekiBreeki View Post
    Oh yeah I am 100% a vindictive cunt,
    The first step to overcoming a problem is admitting you have one....

    decides to ambush my posts elsewhere and then suggests I compost myself
    How about, instead of stalking me into this thread, you leave it in that one. Where I explained that it was you that were gleefully causing cancer, and insisting there were too many people in the world.
    YOU are the only one you have control over. (allegedly) So sort yourself out first eh.

    should the OP just buy every type of 0.312" diameter projectile commercially available in NZ?
    Ideally, yes. That would give him a very good understanding of his particular rifle and what it likes, or at least will tolerate.

    Honestly the best starting point is 174 - 180 gr as that's the sweet spot for a 1:10 twist .303 and with playing with powder volumes in smaller and smaller increments and seating depth the OP could realistically expect to get less than 2MOA with almost any projectile, which would probably be the best that could be hoped for without decent glass or pressure bedding and a scope.
    Your ASSertion based on what??? you don't even own an enfield.
    How bout go get one, and document/post up here your loading journey. You must nearly be an expert with all that google in ya.

    ...And on a bad day I can hold 4 minutes over irons. A good day and I'll put the optics boys to shame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CheekiBreeki View Post
    I've seen your post history LOL, none of that is true ya wanker
    Four people (and I don't imagine any of them, let alone hamsav is going to be championing the mimms-fan-club any time soon) have told you I'm right and you're not. And this is what you come back with...

    Grow up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mimms2 View Post
    Four people (and I don't imagine any of them, let alone hamsav is going to be championing the mimms-fan-club any time soon) have told you I'm right and you're not. And this is what you come back with...

    Grow up.

    Nah I'm good. Mwah darling

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    Quote Originally Posted by mimms2 View Post
    The first step to overcoming a problem is admitting you have one....


    How about, instead of stalking me into this thread, you leave it in that one. Where I explained that it was you that were gleefully causing cancer, and insisting there were too many people in the world.
    YOU are the only one you have control over. (allegedly) So sort yourself out first eh.
    Sage advice - you would have been wise to follow it.

    I'm quite happy to keep jumping on threads you post on, it's kind of enjoyable for me to be honest. As you say too, the only one you have control over is yourself, not me, so I'll keep doing as I please. I could keep it up for months

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    Quote Originally Posted by CheekiBreeki View Post
    I'm quite happy to keep jumping on threads you post on, it's kind of enjoyable for me to be honest. As you say too, the only one you have control over is yourself, not me, so I'll keep doing as I please. I could keep it up for months
    Quote Originally Posted by CheekiBreeki View Post
    Nah I'm good. Mwah darling
    And... you have access to firearms? Who did you have to blow to declare you fit and proper?


    Sorry bumblefoot, that this twerp has de-railed the thread. I'll be ignoring him here going forward.
    Look forward to your progress with the mighty smle.
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