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    Great work on the cats Guys - I don’t know how cats get into a doc250 - this one at the Park was a real mess to get out - next victim was a hog - same messy problem
    Good size family groups of Quail around the Park now - 45 less hogs has made a big difference - I saw one family of about sixty and one of about 20 this morning while driving up the main track
    I did a small line today - couple of juvenile rats and a large hog - the rats will be back soon

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    Timeout, you should know how a cat gets into a doc box, someone left the door open.
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    Fresh rabbit and a mixture of possum paste.

    If its hungry or inquisitive it's going to poke around and you just end up with results.
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    Nothing scientific here just my observations...
    I cleared my high country traps today and thankfully the Christmas rush of stoats into the traps has subsided. Whenever i have got a fresh stoat i have always sqeezed its back end to get a bit of wee on the trap, chucked the stoat away and carried on. Today i carried it further so to speak. My process is now..reset the trap, cut the tail off on the trap lid, stoat goes into a strong heavy walled plastic bag nose to the bottom of the bag and bum end just out of the bag. Squeeze with the flat of your knife between the stoats legs until a bit of wee spills on the trap lid. Next trap, replace bait trap lid down and knife between Sammy stoats legs and press until a bit of wee comes out, wipe his butt around on lid, repeat next traps until Sam runs out of liquid. I reckon i got 4 or 5 traps done that way per stoat. My mantra is nothing attracts a stoat like another stoat. When i have stayed overnight in the high country and have checked my traps the first day and have caught a stoat and squeezed the stoat that day so many times i have caught a stoat the next night in that same trap. I have always just squeezed the stoat the once but never carried it to the next few traps.. will be interesting to see if it ups my catch rate ? Thoughts please...

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    Great work SHS - we all learn heaps of good stuff by sharing experiences with each other - that is how this thread started with help from @Kiwi-Hunter
    The dead body, body parts and the last few pees from a predator is a powerful lure to the next predator whether it be the same or different animal type
    If I am free mounting traps in the bush or around the farm - I like to use a ramp or fence post stay - the dead rat pee runs down the ramp to attract the next predator
    Rats seem to love chewing out or dragging off the last rat in a trap - but they can’t always get the head and trap past the mesh - so many rats are cannibals and stoats seem to check out rat pee or the scent of his family members caught in a trap box - I so often hear people say they got a stoat then got the rest of the family
    I always leave a dead rat on a trap box or near the trap - it is a powerful lure to get the next one
    Some pics below of a rat infested site - started with chewed out body parts so wasn’t sure if it was a stoat or rat - but it turned out to be a large rat that couldn’t quite get his head out of a trap - but he was still alive
    These pics are from 2017 so have been on here earlier

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    Flesh bait

    Just in and little rain came in so called it a night so far.
    Had my youngest shooting tonight and because it's been rough weather down here or they knew a little bit of rain was coming we were able to pick up a new supply of bait. Also just good spending time with him and passing on a little knowledge.
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    Good work fellas Swamp comp results are on the website btw, good luck
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    Got round the estuary lines today , bit late as had been away ( Stewart Island)but way more stoats than any other check bit of a worry
    5 stoats, 3 rats,1 weasel, 1 hedgehog
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    1 cat dispatched was a pretty fair trade for my first couple of kiwi I seen in the wild down on the island .��
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    I'm loving that second photo.

    We managed to sniper one out the hut window down on Stewart Island too.

    Man it was tricky tho, a very cagey cat... had to stake him out and it took a few goes.

    A big ginger tom so happy to see him out of the gene pool.


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    Made it round the trap line today 4 hedgehogs, 4 rats one weasel and one dried up stoat which was caught in a trap with duck feathers





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    Its hard to find a good Cherry tree in the bush - mostly I slash them - but this one might be useful to mount a new trap
    Carol from Grantly Imports Ltd DeadRat.co.nz - sent me a Flipping Timmy to try out for her - then she got a possum on her own deck at her home - so she is an experienced trapper!
    So I mounted the Timmy on a Cherry tree this morning - best place I could find and beside a Timms that has produced well in the past
    I like the look of the new Timmy - a very similar trap presentation to a Possum Master and a Sentinel - very simple to bait with an apple, close it up and load it - hope the possums like the concept
    A bit warm up in the bush this morning - too hot for a black dog - but she just sits, watches and waits - nothing to get excited about today - rats all gone!

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    Interesting looking trap that @time out Good to see that flour blaze too as that will definitely help

    I noticed a few broken branches on a couple of my two year old sugar gums two days ago and suspected possums.

    Set two leg hold traps on a couple of pines close by.....two possums in the last two nights so hopefully that's my trees safe for a little longer

    For some reason they weren't putting their heads in the sentinal but the switch to leghold sorted it



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    Righto fellas i have to post this one as its relevant to what some of you have been talking about lately @sore head stoat .

    So I left that weasel from a few days ago (minus his tail) sitting on top of the trap.

    I was driving past today and stopped out of interest to see if it was still there.

    It was gone but was replaced with a tailed one in the trap.



    So it is now the tailless one on top of the trap and i am left with no doubt that the smell of a predator is a great lure for another.



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    Well this is interesting.

    I checked my high country traps the other day 5 days after last checking, short turn around, its usually 10 to 14 days.. I was convinced that i was going to murder the local mustelid population after putting pee on a few traps.. I caught 1 and a half rats.. [the other half was eaten by something] and NO mustelids .. I was thinking oh how am i going to put this on the forum lol. I have seen enough to know that the smell thing has merit and is worthy of doing but not the magic bullet i had thought ? .. Oh and to add insult to injury , as i was walking back to my vehicle a stoat ran out in front of me not 20m away from a trap Hopefully he will be in it when i next check !!

    I would be interested to see how you set up the Victor in your box for weasels, do you use the Landcare shroud ? I have caught the odd weasel in a Victor rat trap but generally not clean kills like a 150. Much cheaper option though.

    Kukuwai, next time you get a freshie try rubbing his butt and squeezing it [through the plastic bag] so it pees on a few traps and see what you think then.
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