Thread: Pukeko legal or not?

Telecomus swamphenous

Originally Posted by Tommy

No Mynahs in Nelson? It truley is the promised land!

The black and white cunning buggers only really arrived 5-10 years ago too, seamed to have worked their way up the wairou to nelson lakes from blen and back down to here.

Worth starting a givealittle fund to set every kid between ages 8 and 14 with a .177 meteor and two boxes of pellets.

Originally Posted by Tommy

Worth starting a givealittle fund to set every kid between ages 8 and 14 with a .177 meteor and two boxes of pellets.

Is that a question or a statement Tommy?

Originally Posted by Rushy

Is that a question or a statement Tommy?

Statement. they piss me off whenever I go to the islands too (the pacific-y ones)

Originally Posted by hamsav

I was pretty sure Pukeko's are not native to NZ , I knew they were in Papua New Guinea and Oz but not sure where they originated or how they got wherever , Copied this of the net


Australasian swamphen (Porphyrio melanotus) is a species of swamphen occurring in eastern Indonesia, the Moluccas, Aru and Kai Islands, as well as in Papua New Guinea and Australia. It is also found in New Zealand where it is known as the Pūkeko, derived from the Māori language. The Australasian swamphen previously was considered a subspecies of the purple swamphen.

Pukeko's are native, they got here themselves. They might not be endemic (only found in NZ) though

Endemic, native or introduced? | Sciencelearn Hub

Thanks for that VC.

Originally Posted by 7mmwsm

Geez you're a hard man Rushy.

I would be even harder if I had a hold of either of them. Harder still if I had hold of both.

Pukes seem to have a bad rep - I saw a pic of one flying with a duckling - but I have never seen them put a foot wrong - I reckon they are a lovely bird
Plenty of them on the estuary down the end of our street so I watch them a lot while walking the dog
Parries and Canadas don’t seem to care about them even when they have ducklings a few days old - the pukes never worry the young ducklings
Stilts seem to be a bit aggressive at present - but maybe they have chicks nearby
Maybe you have to take them as you find them but why shoot them for the sake of what someone else said





this looks fairly peaceful and that Puke walked right past that Parrie with her young

I hate them because they came onto my property and killed 12 chicks while mother hen tried to chase it off. Since them I have hunted them consistently around my house and surrounding property and they have mostly all moved on

Sent from my workbench

Originally Posted by Littledog

I am having trouble with Puk's eating our chook eggs and even a few chicks. I made a fenced run for the chooks but the puks still get in. Is it legal to shoot the Puks without a game bird license? I tried searching the net but I got conflicting answers.

Anyone know?
Cheers.

My neighbours have a reserve of some sort, thier pukes keep coming over to my duckpond and killed of my duck chicks, i got 5 of them the other flew off, see them occaisoianly but they take off real quick. Now im dealing to the hawks as they have got the nesting adults

Originally Posted by Martin358

My neighbours have a reserve of some sort, thier pukes keep coming over to my duckpond and killed of my duck chicks, i got 5 of them the other flew off, see them occaisoianly but they take off real quick. Now im dealing to the hawks as they have got the nesting adults

I think you need to read the rules around killing harrier

Originally Posted by Expert

It is important to realize that you cannot simply take measures to reduce harrier populations to protect wild, free ranging gamebirds, (whether hand - raised or not), such as pheasants, quail, mallard or other game ducks, pukekos etc. To protect any of these, you still need a DoC permit.

http://hunting.fishandgame.org.nz/si...s%20change.pdf

Australasian harrier (Circus approximans)
The Australasian harrier is listed on Schedule 2 as partially protected wildlife, which
means the occupier of any land (or someone with the occupier’s authority) may
hunt or kill harriers on that land if the birds are causing injury or damage to property.
This species was moved from Schedule 5 (unprotected) to Schedule 2 in 1986. It is
a native species (found also in other countries) whose range has extended greatly in
New Zealand since European settlement, but whose population has declined since
the 1950s.
In 1996, a Department of Conservation report 4 recommended that the protection
status of the Australasian harrier be reviewed and that it be given full protection. The
report emphasised the harrier’s importance to New Zealand’s environment and to the
general ecological welfare of ecosystems they live in. The majority of bird species it
preys on are introduced species.
In particular the report argued that:
• There is little evidence that harriers kill live lambs or ewes (the reason for listing them
on Schedule 2) but rather they are known to take or feed on carcases immediately
after death (i.e., still-born or dead young lambs).
• Although harriers prey on small birds and mammals there are few reports of their
killing protected native birds, game birds or lizards because the majority of their
terrain is open country or intensively-developed farmland.
• They are useful scavengers and will often take car-killed animals and carrion.
• They assist in the control of rodents and birds impacting on orchards and vineyards,
particularly introduced starlings and blackbirds.
The Australasian harrier is classified as “not threatened” as overseas populations are
secure.

They assist in the control...of birds impacting on orchards and vineyards...they are harassed by magpies, spur fecking wing fecking plovers...I have never seen Harriers controlling starlings or blackbirds in the vineyard...they do rattle the chain of the waxeyes, which is probably the worst bird in the vineyard...unlike the blackbird and thrush who will take the single berry from a bunch, the waxeye assists in the spread of botrytis and other fungi as they pierce the skin of the berry to extract the juice...

what ever you do, dont "educate them" by doing nasty things to them in cages so they dont come back

this is animal abuse not pest control and will be treated as such by the greenies and animal rights peops

shoot the buggers with a shotgun, if you are the land owner or manager it is ok for you(but only you) to shoot on the property during duck season without a licence
you need to follow all the rules regarding game bird shooting like not using the .22 or 308 and its all legit