Thread: 45/70 Subsonic

oh great and wise ones I hope you dont object to me injecting my humble opinion on your findings????
I do not own one of the great black hole barrels like your most worthy selves merely a humble chinese made rifle in a cartridge designed by a russian fella for to be made by the people ofr the people to kill the people...but maybe that would lead one to think of its big brother round not the humble x39 I cart around....
Ive tried many supersonic rounds and yip at close range they do the job no complaints
my subsonic loads use Roberts great 151grn hoho hollowpoints which look and behave pretty much like the before mentioned winchester subs...which reminds me you DONT need to melt .22lr rounds down to find hardness...it can be done with pencils from the stationary shop..... different hardness pencils will and wont mark different hardness cast lead (google is your friend)
because I dont have access to goat shooting 90% of the sub loads fired have either been plinking or hares...with the important/relevant ones being to kill my house muttons wandering around in paddock 30-50 yards.... to gain expansion/limit penertration I used old school trick and got out stanley knife and cut four slits down the tip /devided into quarters if you like... about 3-4mm deep/down into projectile sides..... so far Ive only managed to recover one and it measures 14mm wide so close to double diameter.
it will work with the 44mag moa hunter mentioned before but the law of unforeseen circumstances comes into play and may indeed OVEREXPAND at high velocity.you could also insert/glue a single steel shotgun pellet into cavity to assist expansion starting(#2 works perfectly in 151s) the theory isnt new as its what the fancy plastic bit on ballistic tips does.