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Thread: Deer are NOT armour plated!

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    Deer are NOT armour plated!

    Was just fooling about on the net looking for something, and bumped into an old argument (at the other pub) over the 2506 and it's ability, some prat called Shore something or other, flat out putting down the 25odd, claiming among other things that the .25 couldn't be got over about 2900fps with 120gn bullets, and that you couldn't use it on Wapiti, Wildman and Lapuaman put the case for it, cause they know the truth, but having talked to a couple of guys recently up the same valley as me chasing Tahr, carting a 300 Win and a 338Lap, who were astonished you could hunt Tahr with a .257 cal, I wonder how many still hold the same miss conception. Starting to think that with the way it's going, we are going to start seeing crewed weapons and/or pintel mounted with armour piercing laser guided, cause them animals have evolved to grow armour and have developed specialist avoidance techniques so they can only be shot from several hundred metres away

    The 2506 was killing game the size of Elk in the states nearly a hundred years ago, under a couple of different names until it got standardised, Remington commercialised it in 1969, and every major manufacturer has chambered it since. In a proper length barrel (not 22") it is no drama to get 3200fps with a 120gn and 3400 with a 100gn bullet, My current rig happens to be my favourite tops hunting rifle, (and I have a .270 and a 7mm Mag). My longest shot on a Tahr with a 2506 was 480yds with a 117 Sierra Prohunter doing 3250, Tahr travelled about 5yds backward and expired. Adult bull about 120 kg.

    Up near ANP last weekend testing the dial up on my new 6.5x55, took the .25 along just for the hell of it, we had a few steel plates up, 10mm mild steel, not superdooper bis stuff, but the .25 with a 117 Prohunter did this at 275

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    Hands up .25 users, am curious to see just how many around here use and understand just how good it is
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    did you try the 6.5 on a plate
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    I come across a lot of advocates in my job. I never thought I would strike one acting on behalf of a bullet.
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    had one, m700 great rifle, wish I still had it but you know..................................

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    I have used .25 for over 25 years both .25/06 and .25/08 and both can drive the 120grn at over 3000fps but the .25/08 will do it in a medium action with less powder and a 22" barrel.
    Now i have changed to a 6.5 only because when I went to replace the .25/08IMP barrel after 3000 rounds as I couldn't find anyone that had a reamer to do another one of these, it is such an under rated caliber.

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    how well did the plate cook up???? did you need gravy with it???? LMAO
    Im a .270 man myself and see same old arguments thrown it its direction too.
    funny thing happening now..new mod flashfandangled rounds out there to fire cast or soft heavy projectiles at slow speed.....hmmmmm anyone heard of .45 long colt...or .32/20 the list goes on
    you don't NEED a blackout blah de blah at one time (before chronies) a cartridge was judged on its merits in the field.
    plenty of big hairy mountain goats got culled with .222 back in the day, I AGREE 100% THEY ARENT ARMOUR PLATED.

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    Quote Originally Posted by northdude View Post
    did you try the 6.5 on a plate
    The 6.5 only had factory "Superformance" ammo (Superformance my arse!) chronied at 2500fps, 140SST - only left a decent dent on a plate at 165, barely marked it at 275. The .260 with 130 Sierra Gameking at 2900fps nearly got through at 165 and left a decent crater at 275, the 7mm08 with 140 Nosler BT's nearly got through at 165yds but only left a crater at 275. Next time the 6.5 will have a full house load, have 140 VLD's and 140 AB's going 2800.
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    Any 140 AB going 2800ish will kill whatever however, indeed.
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    I agree that deer are not armour plated but just incase they evolve to be in the future im ready with my 300gr .338 bullets at 3000fps!
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    I laugh at 25/06

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    Someone has too much time on their hands.
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    Deer don't have hands Pengy Or time pieces
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    Oh fuck, then my pussy little .223 doesn't stand a chance then if a 25/06 can't kill deer? Please don't tell this stag he's not dead (scrubby Ruahine stag shot with a .223 with a 9.5" barrel, used this roar).



    May have to go to that other pub and have some fun :-)

    Kj

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    My hand is up !! shot hundreds of critters with the m700 2506 from memory I think only 2 or 3 have run off only gun iv used or needed to use on deer tahr etc ...those 120 corelokt,s do the damage usually use them on the tahr

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    Its always the guys with small ones that have to talk about how good they are
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