Forum Spot Burning

[9STAGS]

I give info freely on Stewart Island blocks generally . Its a haul for most hunters and cost to get here. Any help is good.

Good on you for helping out other fellow hunters who choose to make their way to your wonderful island.
I'll never disparage people who give out knowledge or their time to help other hunters.

Just to counter from my perspective and to maybe help other people who may be apprehensive or unsure about visiting new or different hunting grounds without any prior knowledge or intel.
I visited Stewart Island for 10 days a few years ago now.
Hunted one of the eastern coastal blocks.
Never had been there before and maybe never will again.
Could have asked for info or intel before hand, but why lesson my experience.
Did I need to or have to shoot a deer to make the trip a success. No that's not how I gain enjoyment from the outdoors. Did I want to shoot a Whitetail. Too bloody right.
Hunting whitetail isn't that hard, or should I say no harder than any other of our deer species in areas that receive regular hunting pressure.
Maybe as a North Island bush hunter used to hunting constantly pressured deer in a bush environment gives me an edge over say maybe a long range tops shooter. Dunno I wouldn't be so arrogant to call myself great or even a good hunter, but I back myself and my rolling average seems to be pretty consistent at approximately 1 chance for a shot for every 3 days invested.
I therefore expected a chance for a shot knowing I had 8 full days of hunting available to me.
Seeing new country and exploring the different landscape was an enjoyable experience and having no prior knowledge made the trip just that little bit more special as everything was new and different and unexpected but in some ways also the same.
It wasn't scary or daunting. I want apprehensive or unsure, just probably too keen for the first 2 days to see and explore, so bumped a couple of animals from being too enthusiastic to see whats around the next tree or over the next rise. After what I like to call the settling in period I slowed down after that.
Ended up shooting 1, missing another and letting a doe walk after watching it feed for a few minutes in an area with fresh buck scrapes.
Didn't feel like I had missed out on anything important without prior knowledge of arriving and wouldn't change anything or do anything differently if I were ever to go back.
I like the challenge of hunting. I like the hunt rather than the shot. Probably why I like to keep my kit basic. A swannie, a rifle and a bumbag. Its me vs them, not me and others input vs them.
It seems because we have such individualistic needs and wants and outcomes from our sport, its probably why as a collective group we aren't united and have a stronger voice in the greater public arena.
Just some ramblings of an old weirdo.

[John Duxbury]

This is a dumb thread. You're complaining because someone you don't know posted about hunting in a spot you know about? And you're trying to make rules to stop it?

Your secret spot is not yours. People can post and make videos of whatever they like and share it with whoever has an interest in the world. This is no place to prevent people sharing.

Like many things in life, you get to be unhappy about it, but you can't complain about it.

[HNTMAD]

The biggest YouTube offenders get streams of positive comments and likes. Are never called out or receive negative comments. Why's that?

On the other hand there are some wonderful YouTube hunting vids that should be applauded. E.g. "The next Generation" vid that was posted on here today. Top stuff.

Thats because they delete the negative comments and then block the negative commentor.....simple to show positivity when you have the control. It happens on their social media also....

[HNTMAD]

I hunt majority public land and spots have got busier and busier at certain locations i hunted alot and now push further afield
...or take a punt on old haunts....youtube and loose lips have certainly changed the carparks thats for sure. Also having taken people, then they go with their mates and their mates causes chaos. The whole but its public land dont wash with me....i know its public....but you never knew this particular lookout etc was here if you hadnt been with me, but now go and drag ya mates grinds my gears. Whats worse when you share a lookout with them via mapping tools and they share it with randoms you dont know....yep i should know better....and do now....

I tend to now have a very close few that know my exact whereabouts when hunting due to being burnt over the years.....

Nunya and web gully have been used as locations or as much as i hate too a lil white lie.

Happy hunting.... its only going to get worse before its better.

Hamish

[HNTMAD]

Also funny when you tubers are now making comments on how busy it is
... makes me laugh and laugh and laugh

[Tahr]

This is a dumb thread. You're complaining because someone you don't know posted about hunting in a spot you know about? And you're trying to make rules to stop it?

Your secret spot is not yours. People can post and make videos of whatever they like and share it with whoever has an interest in the world. This is no place to prevent people sharing.

Like many things in life, you get to be unhappy about it, but you can't complain about it.

No. You can complain about it but you cant expect that it will always make a difference. You can't stop people from not liking what they don't like. But it can be discussed and debated.
When your turangawaewae is disrespected you speak up.

[Yesmate]

This is a dumb thread. You're complaining because someone you don't know posted about hunting in a spot you know about? And you're trying to make rules to stop it?

Your secret spot is not yours. People can post and make videos of whatever they like and share it with whoever has an interest in the world. This is no place to prevent people sharing.

Like many things in life, you get to be unhappy about it, but you can't complain about it.

I Agree with this post.do what ever ya want,complaining about something that is not yours is pathetic.Personally I only take/show my sons/close friends to my public spots when someone else probes for intel its just ruahines or tararuas.

[BRADS]

Some of your guys idea of hunting sounds bloody boring to me!
I could think of nothing worse than going to the same spot, the fun is the adventure for me.
Early on NZ hunter went up past hinura hut in the Ruahines, Howletts then out the other side, some locals said blah blah blah like this thread i walked in there about 6 months latter and no obvious spike in the hut book entyrs at all because no one wants to walk anywhere.
Theres deer all through the ruahines at the moment get out there and shoot some.

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[Ned]

My mate would often, when needled by others just give them a totally left field spot as a recommendation that he'd never been to before.
Then at some point he might get some feedback, nothing there, or more valuable would be, thanks for the spot, got a deer etc etc.

[erniec]

Nik Marshall got the same treatment after posting videos etc.
But you do have to get further than the hut door.
Bit like the Duleys you are welcome to go there but you have to put in the effort.

[Bos]

Interesting comments to read on what is a bit of a dreary old day after all the rain and flooding round here.
Personally, Id hunt public land maybe once or twice a year and thats usually after Tahr, so Im happy to pass on info on public land to anyone that asks. Still doesnt mean theyre gonna shoot a 12 inch plus Bull, or even a chunk of venison
Rest of the time I hunt private land so anyone asks me where I shot the deer - 'I tell them through the shoulder'. This means that I preserve the integrity of the relationship I have with the landowners, and secondly I can pretty much shoot some meat whenever I want to.
There are enough videos and general info around these days to give even the most novice of hunters the general idea; that if you climb high enough, hunt quietly at the right time of day with the wind in your face, theres every chance you'll shoot something. And if you dont, go look in the next gully over next trip

[whanahuia]

No. You can complain about it but you cant expect that it will always make a difference. You can't stop people from not liking what they don't like. But it can be discussed and debated.
When your turangawaewae is disrespected you speak up.

Exactly. Far better to bring topics into the open and discuss.

[Jt89]

More than happy for information to be protected. I want to know where to go to see and shoot a deer as much as the next noob, but I've been hunting long enough to know that earning it is still part of the process. I've had a little bit of success, I've not ever been told exactly where to go to and I'll never tell somebody exactly where to go. I do enjoy playing the "what hut is that" game on youtube, but to be honest I think 90% of what I see broadcast out there I'll never have the time or fitness to go most of these places. I reckon I've figured out where a small mob of fallow are living purely by luck; one video I watched I actually went "I know that area! been there before" but will I actually travel all the way back to try and stumble around and hunt the same spot? probably not. Better off hunting closer to home and learning my local areas to increase my chances.

I suppose this is one of the reasons the Duleys make no secret of where they are going on some of their big south westland trips - you'd have to be as mad and as fit as Old man Duley to even try, so if you are then bloody go for it... not many do I imagine.

[kukuwai]

I reckon that even if you think it is 'your' spot....someone has almost certainly been there before you

Its public land fellas. Have at it

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[John Duxbury]

No. You can complain about it but you cant expect that it will always make a difference. You can't stop people from not liking what they don't like. But it can be discussed and debated.
When your turangawaewae is disrespected you speak up.

Complaining about this and trying to bring in rules about it, is to disrespect everybody else's turangawaewae; because it's public land. Which is intolerable. It also diminishes their own mana with the whinging. Which is distasteful to witness.

I have spoken.