Forum Spot Burning

[Ryan_Songhurst]

Well I spent a couple of days in Queenstown last week and fully expect myself to become the subject of a full blown manhunt for that handsome fella that keeps appearing on YouTube. The amount of numpties walking around oblivious to people around them with their phones on a stick talking to themselves is really something to behold.

[erniec]

Well I spent a couple of days in Queenstown last week and fully expect myself to become the subject of a full blown manhunt for that handsome fella that keeps appearing on YouTube. The amount of numpties walking around oblivious to people around them with their phones on a stick talking to themselves is really something to behold.

Be careful might be on some other sites with AI enhancement haha

[Mararoa]

It's easy to be liberal about this topic while there are heaps of deer everywhere and there is no price on their head. Being generous with information is painless.

It would be a different story if they were worth money again, they were being hammered from the skies, they were getting scarce and access was getting closed-up. That was how it used to be and everyone was pretty tight lipped. The blabbers got pulled into line pretty quickly. A few of you chaps would have a black eye.

Context is everything.

You are right on that one Tahr. I was learning to hunt in the 80’s and a deer was worth as much at the chiller as a weeks wages for a lot of people. Knowledge of where one or two might be was closely guarded and only shared between friends who would help each other out, not anyone who had access to the internet (which obviously didn’t exist then). Maybe the value of that sort of knowledge has lessened over time, or maybe some people expect more for less effort these days.

[Nick.m]

My opinion is "less is more". Sure give people a nudge in the right direction but still leave them to organise the trip and find the animals themselves. I have been burnt multiple times on here helping people out and because of this what I tell people now is alot more vague. If people still can't find a decent area with a nudge in the right direction then they should probably stay in town.

I've said this to mates for years now, "the internet has ruined alot of good hunting spots". One video is all it takes sometimes. Don't get me wrong I thoroughly enjoy watching the content online but to me less is more alot of the time.

[Russian 22.]

I would think we would be better served by telling new people the spots not worth going. places with low deer numbers or shitty thick bush as opposed to where the good spots are.

when I started out it would have saved me a lot of time, money and disappointment if i knew the places I went were trash

[longshot]

I hand out info here and there, but it’s not secret, the people I give it out to would get there eventually anyway. And I think this is actually the crux of it, it’s that only one person can keep a secret, and when it comes to hunting, there are probably five others out there that know the same secrets I do, which means it’s not really a secret.

People that want to do it the easy way have and will always be part of the landscape, the information age in which we live just makes it more visible.

Me personally, I wouldn’t know what would be the best policy would be for the forum, but of the 10-15 people I know reasonably well that hunt regularly, there are one or two that might be reading this forum, the rest from what I can gather get most of their information from social media sites. So even if this forum enforced an omertà, it would be like a free standing gate on the beach to try and stop the tide.

[9STAGS]

Ive thought about this some more and I think one of the issues influencing this topic is lack of public access into our public land forest parks.
This causes hunters to get funneled into too few a access points, which we then fight over to claim as our own hunting areas.
This then upsets us, as other hunters enter and also use our favored locations which turns a great spot into a good spot into an average or even not worth going to spot.
Long range shooters appear to be at more of an disadvantage as only so many locations are favoured for this style of shooting and tend to find more favour with the Youtubers and dare I say it, influencers.
Luckily as a bush hunter my choices are almost endless and when a locale gets pressured, Its easy enough to move on and find success elsewhere after a period of intel from a few hunts.
For North Islanders, Kaimai's, Northern Ureweras, Western Kaimanawas, and Western Ruahine's are good examples with large tracts of land but few access points.
I think there was a thread a while ago about a Waitomo location that got pressured to the point where the locals got upset. Probably rarely if ever got hunted up to only fairly recent years.
I imagine this scenario could be replicated all over the country as more hunters enter the sport but more public access dries up and more hunters are forced into fewer locations and then the internet reveling more and more pet hunting spots.
There is a reason Clements Mill road and Ruahine car parks are often chocka full of hunters each trying to get to a location before others.
When I'm hunting I don't want to be sociable and meet others.
I prefer to save the pleasantries for when the guns put away for the day.
After many years I stopped hunting Pureora in the roar after running into or roaring in 33 hunters in the scrub over a 3 day period.
My biggest mistake was I was only camped 3 hours from the nearest entry point.
Needed to be another 2 whole watersheds further in.
Never used to be such a problem. Has social media and the internet taken away much of the need for people to do their own intel gathering and learn new locations through repeated hunts and learn from trial and error. Possibly? Probably?
I suspect because of my age Ive become to used to the good ole days and how it used to be and am somewhat stuck in my outdated ways.
At the end of the day there's still hunting/shooting opportunity's for us all and no one can ever knock someone who has taken the effort to get off the couch regardless of how they ended up getting there.

[Micky Duck]

Now next time you shoot a deer,skin it and take what your going to need.then take the time to prop up skin and head in such fashion to look like deer going about its business.... The next fella sees it goes BOOM!!! ( Not as effective with suppressor)And scares every deer for miles away.goes home with tail between legs n maybe the deer survive till you come back.... That's what we used to do ...sometimes I just can't resist doing it and chuckle away to self about it for weeks. Did it with pigs on station years back,worked better than could hope...shepherds put in huge stalk for km down n across hill face before the smell gave the game away. They saw funny side of it.

[Mararoa]

I feel sorry for you North Island fellas. In the deep south it goes nuts for a couple of weeks either side of Easter and then the hills are nearly empty for the rest of the year. Long may it last.

[Rn-85]

I feel sorry for you North Island fellas. In the deep south it goes nuts for a couple of weeks either side of Easter and then the hills are nearly empty for the rest of the year. Long may it last.

Except, christmas break. We shot a pig and had fellas turning up from all over the place.

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[Gkp]

Oh yeah this is a topic that winds me up.
Seams to be a bunch of social media sencailists that that cruise around posting videos up just for the likes. It gives them an instant dopamine hit like they are someone special or someone new to experience this place.
What they don't realize they are totally fucking spots/locations that have taken locals or people who have built up a knowledge base on a species or area years and years of hard graft, determination and sweet to accumulate in the knowledge bank.
I would literally like to punch those dudes in the face( but would loose my firearms license) just to try wake them up and try make them see what they are doing.
This is not just a hunting thing but goes across the board with all things that people try to sensationalize.
Im all for helping out the less experienced but for fuct sake is nothing sacred! People need to get off there arse and go and create a genuine experience for themselves.
Nah just watch another influencer on YouTube

[Tahr]

Oh yeah this is a topic that winds me up.
Seams to be a bunch of social media sencailists that that cruise around posting videos up just for the likes. It gives them an instant dopamine hit like they are someone special or someone new to experience this place.
What they don't realize they are totally fucking spots/locations that have taken locals or people who have built up a knowledge base on a species or area years and years of hard graft, determination and sweet to accumulate in the knowledge bank.
I would literally like to punch those dudes in the face( but would loose my firearms license) just to try wake them up and try make them see what they are doing.
This is not just a hunting thing but goes across the board with all things that people try to sensationalize.
Im all for helping out the less experienced but for fuct sake is nothing sacred! People need to get off there arse and go and create a genuine experience for themselves.
Nah just watch another influencer on YouTube

The biggest YouTube offenders get streams of positive comments and likes. Are never called out or receive negative comments. Why's that?

On the other hand there are some wonderful YouTube hunting vids that should be applauded. E.g. "The next Generation" vid that was posted on here today. Top stuff.

[Happy Jack]

This thread reminds me out of 30 something videos I think I have posted one where I had success so thankfully I'm not your typical YouTuber I guess and I try my best to not give place identities unless it is already a very well known area. I mean some views just can't be disguised.

[inglishill]

The biggest YouTube offenders get streams of positive comments and likes. Are never called out or receive negative comments. Why's that?

On the other hand there are some wonderful YouTube hunting vids that should be applauded. E.g. "The next Generation" vid that was posted on here today. Top stuff.

I guess they are in control of what is posted and remove anything negative. I always look at youtube comments with suspicion of an agenda if the comments are all one sided. Thing is people just don't get on well enough to all be glowingly positive all of the time. If I am really suspicious and give half a shit I will post a negative comment then come back in a few days or a few weeks and see if it is still there. Most usually, it is not.

[ghosts]

I give info freely on Stewart Island blocks generally . Its a haul for most hunters and cost to get here. Any help is good.