You don't drink Steinlager then? Yep I agree I've visted many countries, many many years older that NZ and they're are in as good a nick if not better. We are a lazy bunch of people over all, I think we lack a true pride and love for our country, not all, that's a generalisation, but like today, I pulled up at the lights and some arsehole had heavied heap of shit out of a car window onto the road, I don't compute with that, I walk a 4 k route on roads around where I live and there's rubbish all the way, someone had kicked the glass pane out of the bus stop this morning. Nobody gives a shit about NZ
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