Thread: Long range kill damage

Originally Posted by Toby

Those V-maxs seem to be good from that picture,

they expand well but if you hit a solid Red bone or pig sheild they may not penatrate.... but very good for goats and lighter animals at most ranges

Exit 7mm 140VLD @ around 60 yards and around 3200fps.... note not one exit hole, bullet blew to bits



goat again same pills but around 300 yards



front leg on this one is factory 308 150 corelokts..... dont know the speeds



Well that all I have on photobucket...dont have the time to upload more ATM, Have a pig in the fridge shot with a 270 140 AB that should have the pill still in it as I saw no exit hole so when I carve it up tomorrow I will take some pics

Sweet, Thank you for sharing

How cheap are they? The seem like something I would like but im pretty tight.

Originally Posted by Toby

How cheap are they? The seem like something I would like but im pretty tight.

well tight and effective dont allways go together..... but they are actually quite well priced as they come in 100 count boxes... were as the 90gr ballistic tips I used to use came is 50's and weren't that much cheaper. The 90's worked well to 450 yards out of my rig (actaualy drops them better at 400 than 100), Vmax kills better a bit further due to better expansion

130ttsx 30 cal impact velocity 2250fps




I cant find my other pics but can say the almost total lack of bruising is tippical They are like a super apple corer cutting a dead straight hole threw anything in there path.

A high lung shot on a small broadside red a while back cut a neat 50mm hole threw both lungs and dropped it on the spot. shot was a little higher than i would have liked but still didnt bruise the back steaks or shoulders at all.

If you want to eat right up to the hole highly recommend them but not for long range past about 400 depending on cal etc

Exit wound from a goat shot at about 50yds running diagonally towards me. 55gr Hornady training (.223) shot out of 16" bbl AR. Dropped on the spot. Have had inconsistent experience with this ammo. Doesn't seem to do the business at times even with well placed shots. Longest kill I have got with it is just over 350m (multiple kills actually). Well, I shot one at 400m a couple times but it limped off into the scrub.

I will add that one mans perfect performance is another mans blow up or pencil threw.
How you want a bullet to perform is a very personal thing.

Red Hind shot behind the shoulder with 300 Berger @600m muzzle velocity 2840. Lots of meat damage from the shock, exit wound 1.5".

Originally Posted by Tussock

One of the issues with hunters and terminal ballistics is the small sample size. You need thousands of animals per projectile. For each angle of impact, and each impact velocity and each point of impact you need an example. Thats thousands and thousands of combinations of variables.

I aggree in part. Certainly need a decent sample but thousands? Id shot around 15 deer with a projectile I wont name or use again and thought they were the ducks nuts. No 16 was two blow ups without penitrating the vitals. I dont need to shoot another 984 with them to know they dont suit my use of them.
I run a short and long range(for a 308) load. Iv found my minnimum range for the long load that gives terminal results I like. Max distance with the short load hasent really been tested yet but it has been tested past my min for the long load and still works well

Did that one drop on the spot?

Yes shot 3 at around 600m that weekend, not one took a step.

Toby, you seem very interested in dropping them on the spot. Hitting the spine or shocking the spine is is usually what causes this so head/neck/ high lung shots are most likely to do it. Hopefully your chosen projectile and placement causes enough damage to make them bleed out before the central nervous system recovers if it hasent been destroyed.

I agree with vetnamcam, the deer in my pic above and the others shot that weekend had the spine pulverised by shock even tho all the shots were at least 4" below. I wouldn't be to concerned if they take a few steps before falling over.

Originally Posted by L.R

I agree with vetnamcam, the deer in my pic above and the others shot that weekend had the spine pulverised by shock even tho all the shots were at least 4" below. I wouldn't be to concerned if they take a few steps before falling over.

Always a nice feeling when they go down quick.

Were they with the 300 OTM or Gen I ?

What is the twist rate 1-9 or 1-10 ?