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    I reckon everything you need to know has just been covered. Take @NewbieZAR up on that offer to get it done right. My first thought was just ask on this forum if anyone with a thermal would help you out I'm sure a lot of people would jump at the opportunity and most likely would have other forum members back up them up so you know they aren't cowboys

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    They do and will issue a pest control endorsement to land owners.

    The arms officers dont often know what they are talking about.

    Speak to a firearms lawyer.

    Speak to COLFO.

    Join COLFO.

    That bit about having an E cat referee sounds a bit suspect to me, I bet it is bullshit.

    Forget about all the other options mentioned here, go for your endorsement.
    Use enough gun

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    Quote Originally Posted by 40mm View Post
    Forget about all the other options mentioned here, go for your endorsement.
    No reason why you can't do all the things suggested here. Being proactive is good.

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    Thermals are great and shooting will work well, as long as the country is easy. Flattish pines - fine. Steeper native - not fine. Flattish contour is great, but the minute it gets steep, scrubby, thick, forget it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flyblown View Post
    Thermals are great and shooting will work well, as long as the country is easy. Flattish pines - fine. Steeper native - not fine. Flattish contour is great, but the minute it gets steep, scrubby, thick, forget it.
    Why? is it just becasue the animals are hidden? I've never used thermals, as is obvious from the question.

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    been using thermals for five years never had a problem in any type of bush or country

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Waimata View Post
    Why? is it just becasue the animals are hidden? I've never used thermals, as is obvious from the question.
    Yes, where the native thickens up all you can see are glimpses close to the bush edge and pretty soon nothing at all. Plus, a bloke in pursuit, thrashing through thick native in the middle of the night with a head torch, trying not to make any noise, and not getting winded... pig holds all the cards in the native if you haven’t got three good dogs chasing him.

    Pig runs are narrow and low in the really thick stuff, mostly not much higher than knee height. They can fly through thick native to a safe gully and their favourite hole in no time at all.

    But if it’s mature native with lots of goats and/or deer, then its a different story, as the understory is usually gone and you can move around relatively easily. But no goats or deer? You can hardly see your hand in front of your face.

    All depends on the type of country you’ve got to deal with. My example of NE Taranaki probably isn’t that relevant to regular Waikato because this Taranaki country is crazy steep with lethal gorges and lots of hard to reach bush remnants that harbour the pigs. The farmers I hunt with there will often send dogs in one side to flush the pigs out onto pasture on the other side, and either shoot them or catch them with fast dogs. The pigs aren’t that big there either, and don’t have much in the way of jaws, so quite easy to catch.

    A mix of methods relevant to the environment is the way to go, so maybe that’s what @Johnny Booger can tell us about.
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    I'd like to believe the P1 and P2 endorsements aren't hard to get....... given the kinds of people that have been granted them.
    We had a regular customer at work who is in pest control, silly old man, brought his 10/22 in often for me to clean because he didn't know how. Once brought it in to get a scope mounted, loaded, with one up the spout, we had to tell him off. He apparently got a contract shooting bunnies in a cemetery, shotgun "accidentally" went off and obliterated someone's gravestone and had to pay for it, tried to blame the gun (11-87 from memory), then us. I was pissed when I heard the old fool got his P, doesn't know his arse from his elbow. Sorry, this is more of a vent than any helpful advice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Waimata View Post
    No reason why you can't do all the things suggested here. Being proactive is good.
    Yeah, But if you get rid of the problem you are destroying a bloody good reason to be issued a pest controllers ticket.
    Use enough gun

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    Quote Originally Posted by 40mm View Post
    Yeah, But if you get rid of the problem you are destroying a bloody good reason to be issued a pest controllers ticket.
    There’s always re invasion and/or re infestation....you’ll need it then. Good to have n not than to want n not have....


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    Personal thought, I do a lot of local pest control and I don't need a P endorsement to do the work! There's been good suggestions here for you.
    The only P endorsement you need is patience, perseverance! which will reduce your problem, if not eliminate it.
    I am sure there are people on this forum with the skills to help, while you get a good night's sleep.
    In saying that, there are people who I wouldn't hunt with, just because they have a firearms licence! doesn't make them the right person you are needing.
    Welcome to the forum Johnny Booger.
    Where opinions are like elbows. I hope you've done the introduction of yourself before the post! as that's more critical.
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    Last edited by Kiwi-Hunter; 18-01-2021 at 03:56 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiwi-Hunter View Post
    Personal thought, I do a lot of local pest control and I don't need a P endorsement to do the work! There's been good suggestions here for you.
    The only P endorsement you need is patience, perseverance! which will reduce your problem, if not eliminate it.
    I am sure there are people on this forum with the skills to help, while you get a good night's sleep.
    In saying that, there are people who I wouldn't hunt with, just because they have a firearms licence! doesn't make them the right person you are needing.
    Welcome to the forum Johnny Booger.
    Where opinions are like elbows. I hope you've done the introduction of yourself before the post! as that's more critical.
    KH
    Yeah totally , but I reckon if it means he can get an endorsement to use one of those 'evil semiautomatic rifles' then it would be a crying shame not to take the opportunity and be one of the few who can enjoy shooting a great rifle.
    Use enough gun

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    Thanks everybody, some good advice in there.

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    Having the right kind of tool to be an effective shooter is one thing, being able to clean out several breeding mobs and protect land quality is another proposition altogether. It's not all about a P endorsement, its about determining what methods are the most appropriate to (a) reduce numbers as fast as possible, and (b) keep up the pressure on the remaining population so they clear off, which they will if they get enough heat, particularly from good dogs.

    The most effective pig shooters I've ever known were my Polish mates in the 90s who shot driven boar hunts to clean out wild boar from woodland blocks in the winter before planting season - well organised hunts with beaters, dogs and shooters who knew how to lead a running pig. None of them had a semi-auto - they all used bolt action rifles. Duck shooters tend to make pretty good pig shooters, but a lot of deer shooters are fairly lousy to be fair.

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    Happy to wipe a few out with beers in return if thats your thing. Got an indicating dog and subs so would be discrete

 

 

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