Thread: STAGS SHOT 2021

Originally Posted by 7mmwsm

Slightly red looking facial features and low flat brows. Sika tend to point up from the coronet more than reds, like Pushovers one. Could be a deceptive camera angle though.
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First photo was “on the spot “. He was much darker than the first photo showed, so maybe this a better angle. Body wise I thought he was quite solid, back steaks are good.
I chased a stag on the single call in the same spot in the roar before COVID, so maybe the same one? Who knows? Interested in any thoughts.
Cheers

Originally Posted by 7mmwsm

Slightly red looking facial features and low flat brows. Sika tend to point up from the coronet more than reds, like Pushovers one. Could be a deceptive camera angle though.
edit Re Huntn question

Interesting. To me his facial features and brows are all sika. Camera angle definitely not the best tho.

Originally Posted by jono7

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First photo was “on the spot “. He was much darker than the first photo showed, so maybe this a better angle. Body wise I thought he was quite solid, back steaks are good.
I chased a stag on the single call in the same spot in the roar before COVID, so maybe the same one? Who knows? Interested in any thoughts.
Cheers

Thats a better photo, nice sika well done

Originally Posted by Dusty Fog

hey bruce,is that whats called a guardtine off the botton of the palm?

Yes, Scroll through this. Its marked in blue. FishnHunt - New Zealands Famous Hunting and Fishing Forum Since 1995 - Douglas scoring system

Originally Posted by Huntn

Looks all sika to me. What makes you think it might be a hybrid?

In the first photo I thought that it looked different to what I would expect in the coat and head. I dont have any personal experience with Sika but I have a very good eye for assessing animals. A hybrid animal doesnt have to be 50/50, it could be 25% or 12.5% red easily enough. The Fiordland Waps DNA at around 60 ish percent Wap for example. I thought it might have a sniff of Red ? I am just interested in what people with experience with Sika think so I can add that to my knowledge

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

In the first photo I thought that it looked different to what I would expect in the coat and head. I dont have any personal experience with Sika but I have a very good eye for assessing animals. A hybrid animal doesnt have to be 50/50, it could be 25% or 12.5% red easily enough. The Fiordland Waps DNA at around 60 ish percent Wap for example. I thought it might have a sniff of Red ? I am just interested in what people with experience with Sika think so I can add that to my knowledge

Hoping they get a Douglas Score and run over the Withey score to check for whether there is conformity; that is the measure of whether something is "hybrid" or not - it's got nothing to do with some bloke on a forum with no personal experience with Sika saying they look funny....in spite of having "a very good ey e for assessing animals" - I'm sure if you read your comment again, you'll realize how silly that sounds....
Not a dig mate - just an observation that there is a bit of prejudice and skepticism around Sika with any suggestion of Red influence - rather than just saying: "Good job mate - I'd be happy to hang that on my wall."

Originally Posted by jono7

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First photo was “on the spot “. He was much darker than the first photo showed, so maybe this a better angle. Body wise I thought he was quite solid, back steaks are good.
I chased a stag on the single call in the same spot in the roar before COVID, so maybe the same one? Who knows? Interested in any thoughts.
Cheers

That's a ripper!

I would be as pleased as punch with that.

Originally Posted by Nickoli

Hoping they get a Douglas Score and run over the Withey score to check for whether there is conformity; that is the measure of whether something is "hybrid" or not - it's got nothing to do with some bloke on a forum with no personal experience with Sika saying they look funny....in spite of having "a very good ey e for assessing animals" - I'm sure if you read your comment again, you'll realize how silly that sounds....
Not a dig mate - just an observation that there is a bit of prejudice and skepticism around Sika with any suggestion of Red influence - rather than just saying: "Good job mate - I'd be happy to hang that on my wall."

Appreciate the honest reply. My interest is in breeding animals and their hybrids and crosses, certainly not wanting to knock someone's trophy or un-wittingly make a suggestion that is unwelcome. I dont know if many people know but the incredible multi pointing that we see in trophy park Red Deer comes from Sika blood in those reds via Woburn Abbey (Duke of Bedford) stock. This is interesting from the point that Sika have a comparatively plain head, yet the addition of Sika blood can produce extreme multi-pointing

Originally Posted by jono7

Attachment 165789
First photo was “on the spot “. He was much darker than the first photo showed, so maybe this a better angle. Body wise I thought he was quite solid, back steaks are good.
I chased a stag on the single call in the same spot in the roar before COVID, so maybe the same one? Who knows? Interested in any thoughts.
Cheers

It's got a lot of Sika going for it..

1. Appears to have smaller Sika skull length
2. Gap between coronet and brow tines
3. Brow and trey tines slope outwards not fowards
4. Heavy purling
5. Great reinforcing ridgeline above the brow tines on both antlers
6. Outer tops longer than inner tops

Awesome Stag

Great stag, awesome to see.


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Regardless of its bloodline, any eight is a good one, a lot of people who hunt Sika never score one so well done .

Well, we didn't zap his bro today @jono7 but a pleasant walk with a good bugger no less.

Originally Posted by Tui4Me

It's got a lot of Sika going for it..

1. Appears to have smaller Sika skull length
2. Gap between coronet and brow tines
3. Brow and trey tines slope outwards not fowards
4. Heavy purling
5. Great reinforcing ridgeline above the brow tines on both antlers
6. Outer tops longer than inner tops

Awesome Stag

From my limited understanding of Sika we have several strains of Sika from different geographic areas in Asia which might explain different phenotypes here. A bit like the great colour variation in Fallow

Originally Posted by Preacher

Well, we didn't zap his bro today @jono7 but a pleasant walk with a good bugger no less.

Enjoyed the walk with ya mate, and the very end of the hunt proves if you give a roar, one really should keep an eye out for something coming in instead of having a durry and a chat, especially so close to an unseen scrape, they seem to bust ya ��
Cheers

I took my eye dog X Visla for a bit of a walk this morning to one of our haunts, well blow me down she locked onto this deer about 200m from where my vehicle was parked. The rest was simple. The dogs first 8 pointer .