Would you leave?? what would you do if this happens to you?

two sides to every story:wtfsmilie:

Haha fucking handbags, he said she said

Two sides indeed! That wasn't easy reading though, I hope that was just the draft.

Ah shit Kingstoncowboy, ya had me believing that this guy was a right cunt when in fact he just can't spell the word "tolerant"


Guess I'll go back to talking to people and taking them at face value, and assuming that people online talk shit

Julian -
Someone with such a self proclaimed prestigious position and status in the hunting community (as referenced by your introduction ensuring those that didn't know or care who you are can now reply with the respect that a NZ Hunter writer demands) should know that threats of violence, publicly confirmed by yourself, maybe not the best look, should your status as being fit and proper to own firearms be questioned.

They say 1st impressions last, and you have made one with the person in mention here and with this forum as that of a fuckwit.
Some traits of someone you associate with have defiantly rubbed off onto you.

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Talking to a mate earlier today, and he was telling me that he had 4 or 5 phone calls from complete strangers over the weekend, all blokes, and all asking him for "special favours : so to speak.
Took him a while to suss out that some prick had put his cell phone # on the wall in local public loo.:wtfsmilie:

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You think he would have recognised your voice?:D

Whinging to the cops to cause issues for someone's firearms licence after you yourself, wrote physical threats on their vehicle?
About as smart as fighting over a public hunting area, with 4wd access:)

why do these magazine writers think there shit don't stink.... its not the first time iv seen it.
but both parties as bad as each other really, your spot was taken, move on!

Yup, probably bit of truth to both sides. Who needs this type of crap ? Be sweet justice if the relevant AO's had a "oops, you've behaved like a royal twat" rule and suspended firearms licences for the roar...

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why do these magazine writers think there shit don't stink.... its not the first time iv seen it.
but both parties as bad as each other really, your spot was taken, move on!

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It doesnt matter who we are, I just wanted to make sure Kingston knows how small the hunting community is. No courtesy, manners, not even a request if we mind them camping 5m from our camp in the middle of the night, and having the cheek to let us know more than once if we didnt like their actions we could piss of somewhere else. Imagine this happenning to you at 1am in the morning after a long week at work. I can deal with this to some respect as I know there are some fuckwits you meet in life.
What I cant deal with is when someone jeopardise our safety and bullshits about where hes going to hunt.

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Yup, probably bit of truth to both sides. Who needs this type of crap ? Be sweet justice if the relevant AO's had a "oops, you've behaved like a royal twat" rule and suspended firearms licences for the roar...

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Amen,

Who needs this shit when you head off hunting.
We definately didnt need that shit at 1am in the morning. How hard would it have been to ask if they could camp there, and mention they would pack up and camp somewhere else for the weekend, just need somewhere to sleep, just a little common curtosity that most people possess and some commonsence . Atleast a little room for comfort? there was easily enough room to be 20-30m away, no they had to kick a few items of our camp rubbish to the sides, that is how close they were camping. Not to mention the multiple other areas to camp within 5-20mins 4wd.

We were the ones that moved on once we had our one hunt in the area, Already had enough of having our toes stepped on

How was your safety jeopardized? Did you encounter him on your hunt?

Sorry but throwing safety issues around to add weight to your situation is complete bullshit unless there is a real reason to do so. Suspicion is not a reason. I am not sure you did yourself any favours with that spiel to the police unless he knows you and will write it off, as it should be imho.
I also have to ask myself what sort of hunter would want to cover the same ground as someone else, the same day, intentionally anyway?

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Not obvious to you Kyle Mitchell that other hunter you were rude arrogant disrespectful was to me, Julian Danby- Kingston if you dont know who I am, im a writer for NZHunter, and until recently part of the Rod and Rifle team and also part of the Stoney Creek test fire team.

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So what ?

Should he have recognised you and would that have led to him treating you differently ?

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It was easly enough to recognise you with kingston Cowboy badges on all your garments. FYI you usually have your name tags on the inside of your clothing As to those scratches.... really , I would be doing something of more inconvenience to you than scratching your ute.
Your sneaky slimy arrogant dishonest dangerous disgraceful inconsiderate actions will not be tollerated again!

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Sounds about as bad as self professed superheroes who write for NZ Hunter and are former members of blah blah

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really , I would be doing something of more inconvenience to you than scratching your ute.
Your sneaky slimy arrogant dishonest dangerous disgraceful inconsiderate actions will not be tollerated again!

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Tolerated ?? By whom ? Are you some kind of Hunting god ?? Writing on someones windows ??

Honestly, what a fucking kindergarten. It doesnt sound as if either party behaved in an appropriate way - fault on both sides.

I suggest the mods close this shit down and leave both parties to sort their fucking knitting out via private channels.

This kind of self justification and open scrapping is not the kind of thing that belongs on this forum. Take it offline or to another forum, more suited to this kind of bullshit.

Rant ENDs.

Oh Kiwi this was my fun read, dont make it stop :D

I'd be pissed off too if someone went and hunted the same spot at the same time that was there, specially after having giving discussing where everyone was hunting for the morning. Not the brightest thing to do as it puts both parties at risk. Really shows his total disregard to firearm safety, hunting an area he new hunters were already in.

I'd bet the a lot of other guys that were in Julian's situation would have done the same thing, possibly taken things further. You can't be sure of your actions in situation like this until it actually happens to you. Not sure how I would have reacted.

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I'd be pissed off too if someone went and hunted the same spot at the same time that was there, specially after having giving discussing where everyone was hunting for the morning. Not the brightest thing to do as it puts both parties at risk. Really shows his total disregard to firearm safety, hunting an area he new hunters were already in.

I'd bet the a lot of other guys that were in Julian's situation would have done the same thing, possibly taken things further. You can't be sure of your actions in situation like this until it actually happens to you. Not sure how I would have reacted.

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Totally agree! But did he hunt where they were or just assume he did?


Meh!! As Tim said the thread should be closed down anyway. They should meet up and sort it face to face like men.



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Bleating on here does no one any credit.
Just a bunch of immature prima donnas.
I'm at a loss why this thread was ever started. Airing your shit on a public forum is beyond me. It just shows a lack of judgment and maturity by you both.

It should have been sorted at 1am that morning by using a bit of common sense. Both of you.

Still a shit thread:)
You write for NZ hunter wow your so special.....

My thoughts are for the pig dog! I wonder how he felt having some nudists toothbrush up his bum:XD:

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Spud I have to share a story my friend told me....

Years ago he and a mate flew into a hut to pig hunt an area, when they got there they were unwelcomed by a nudist photographer , he walked around starkers, put up a tarp or something in the hut to claim his stake of the area and keep his unwelcome vibe going, in the mornings he would put enough water in the billy for only his drink etc

This pissed my mate off, he put up with it until the last day, the nudist went for a walk to wash or something, so with the flash camera they got his tooth brush and shoved it up the backside of one of the pig dogs and took several photos of it going in and out then packed up and left

So to the nudist photographer, that was my mate having a crack at beginner photography :thumbsup: how did they come out?? bahaha

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Probably about the same as he'd feel with any toothbrush up his bum !!! :thumbsup:

Must have taken a concerted effort to restrain said dog, insert the brush repeatedly and avoid being torn to pieces at the same time!

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Ruff !

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Bleating on here does no one any credit.
Just a bunch of immature prima donnas.
I'm at a loss why this thread was ever started. Airing your shit on a public forum is beyond me. It just shows a lack of judgment and maturity by you both.

It should have been sorted at 1am that morning by using a bit of common sense. Both of you.

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Both legends in their own mind talk about a sandpit fiasco my toys bigger than yours.
Not much manliness displayed by either of you

That write up was as boring as some of the articles written in NZ HUNTER, both are acting like bitches especially dragging it onto a forum- for what, to stir everyone else up?

The only one I feel sorry for is that poor dog that got buggered with a tooth brush.:sick:

Scores out of 10 equal as charged. here's your trophy

Share it nicely ..

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And I only write dirty ditties on shit house walls !!!

(And the odd phone number !!)

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Hi Mike,

As discussed see below for the progression of events on the morning of the 8th March-with my good friend Shane Hardy (0223450559)
My issue regarding firearms safety is the reason for my communication and should be isolated, however I will let you know the events that were endured that morning.

We had arrived at our campsite at about 6pm Friday evening, one of the numerous access points to the native bush and places to camp along the 45minute 4wd trip. We had enough time for a quick hunt before a feed and off to bed at 10pm. At 1am in the morning a ute arrived turned off their engine make some remarks to each other (3 of them) before starting to unload their camping and hunting gear within 5m of our campsite and our parked ute. I let them know in no uncertain terms they were not to camp right beside them, and told them there are a heap of campsites and hunting areas in the valley, some 5 minutes 4wd away. One of the three hunters was obviously the main man in the party, while his mates stayed in the background while the other (Kyle Mitchell) made it clear that he wasnt moving and it was where he hunts and if he didnt like it we could piss off. I made it very clear that we were here first and it was tough luck, he needed to go somewhere else as we were hunting in the native behind camp. After kicking some of our campside rubbish out of the way they set up camp right beside us. You can imagine we were quite upset by these guys actions after rudely been woken, headlights shinning everywhere, loose dogs, no politeness whatsoever and remarks from Kyle very offputting at 1am in the morning. Kyle made it clear he could camp where he wanted and emphasised if we did not like it we could piss off. I guess its lucky it didnt come to blows at this stage, shocked with what just happened. We still hadnt had any introductions and not one bit of politeness our common curtosity shown. They could have easily camped further away but they obviously liked a couple of the manuka stems to put up their fly.
After they had finished setting up camp they had a word to each other and Kyle came up and appoligised for his behavoir mentioned the long drive they had from Wellington and the fact their were other hunters in "their" spot, Kyle said we would sort out where we were hunting in the morning. I know a fact that this bloke Kyle Mitchell only started hunting the area in November last year, We had hunted it for close to 10 years. I guess this dosent matter how long you have hunted the spot, its DOC land and anyone is welcome to hunt it, However the unwritten and well abided by a majority of hunters is if you are first their you can choose where you want to hunt, and common respect for each other and in such a vast area a little privacy and room for comfort regarding camping-considering you are in a DOC area of about about 2kmx5km!. Fuming it took a few hours to comprehend what we had just experienced and eventually get back to sleep to be rudely awoken at an early hour.

Come 530am, a long time before light Kyle and his mates were up and making noise, camped right beside us we were easily woken with the noise and headlights shinning and loose dogs at an unnessesary hour considering the bush was not light until close to seven. Over the next half hour I had to deal with a very close call regarding a dog fight, these guys dogs were not tied up and one had a go at my tied up dog and guys yelling at their dogs, bloody brilliant when you could hear some deer just behind camp the night before! Eventually Kyle came over, still had not indroduced himself and asked where we were going to hunt in a rude and abrupt manner. Precisely I showed him our route, only a small loop, about 800m long, up one side and down the other side of the ridge. In a big DOC area a small fraction of the DOC park Politely I pointed out some good hunting areas for Kyle and his mates and pointed out that we would be moving camp after our morning hunt. We were so put out from the previous events and knowingly after last nights proceedings these guys were not going to give us an inch of respect and privacy that we didnt want anything to do with these guys, they had already ruined out weekend. I said they could have the area adjacent to our campsite after we had hunted it in the morning. Kyle pointed out where his friends were going to hunt and himself pointed out an area, a ridge system further down the range only accessible by walking further down a 4wd track in the tussock and cutting into the native. He also made it clear to us to be careful in the bush. This remark now makes alot of sense as we were soon to find out Kyles actions. Kyles mates left at a reasonable time to reach their hunting area, about the same time kyle should have left to get to his area. After being up at 530am Kyle sat under his fly while we got ready, very stange considering how long ago he was up. Shane and I procrastinated for about another 30minutes waiting for Kyle to leave which he didnt he just sat there in earshot under his fly. Shane and I know exactly what he was up to, he was waiting for us to leave for our hunt before sneaking into the same area we were to hunt later in the morning, this was very obvious. ( I had seen a couple of his videos previously on the internet, I easily identified this area- obvious to us now he didnt want another hunter in 'his' area before him) We cut into our area before climbing the ridge 80meters before sitting down and listening down in the bush below and where Kyle had his truck parked. 25mins later we heard the boot very quietly close and Kyle sneak on the noisey undergrowth onto the left side of the ridge, we had made very clear to him we were going to hunt that morning. By the time we cut back down we couldnt find him, I would say very lucky for him.

After our hunt, we were both still fuming and thought we better move off early to simmer off and to avoid confrontation. At this stage I wrote a note for Kyle on the dust on his windscreens, "if you ever pull any of that shit again on us you will get your head kicked in". Obviously I regret writing that on their ute window but, as you can imagine after the events we had encountered we were absolutely fuming by this stage and now it wasnt someone being inpolite, arrogant, disrespectful, dishonest, slimy it was someone who could handle someone hunting an area they also hunt and took huge safety risks. I believe someone like this should in no way be in possesion of a firearm considering this risk and lack of safety this guy possesses.
I take my safety in the bush seriously, I know people who have been shot and have had near misses in the past by other hunters. This totally avoidable situation sends the shivers down my spine and absolutely disgusts me.

Following the weekends events I contacted a couple of people in the hunting industry to find out some information about the guy, Kyle Mitchell, no one said anything pleasant about this guys character which I find alarming yet so believable.

Something must be done about this guy, he should be weary of doing this to some people with less restraint than Shane and myself. Saying this I doubt we will be so tollerant if he turns up after we have arrived on a future hunt, no doubt sometime in April. We have been unfortunate enough to have people camped at this spot in April of years gone by, tough luck for us, we move on to hunt somewhere else. Its the way it goes no matter who is camped at the spot.

Hopefully you can help me out with my alarming issues and actions from a firearms licence holder.

Cheers
Julian Danby
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Well, Fuk me!!! Some of the shit you said was true but you left a lot out, funny that!!. We drove up at 1am of cause your gonna see lights!. Cant be helped making some noise. It doesn't matter if you have hunting there 20 years, It's not your spot!, it's doc land, I camped were I normally camp, plus I did use the same manuka branches. Who doesn't let their dogs out after 6 hours of travel! I didn't even know you had a dog!, And like you said I'm new to the area and this is where I found a descent camping spot close to the hunting area I wanted to hunt. When we got up that morning at 5:30 I told you I was going to, Also you tried to cover up your face with your camo scarf so I couldn't see you, Dodgy when you're speaking to someone, and no it wasn't cold either!. I got up and left with my mate and dog, my other mate stayed behind with his dog , NOT ME dick head!!!! I went down the track AND I TOLD YOU WHERE I WAS GOING AND I DID JUST THAT, I can even send you my gps tracks of where I went!! I didn't stoop around and wait for you to go, and follow you or what ever the shit you said!, I'm not a psycho either!. You didn't introduce YOURSELF EITHER!! covering up you're facing and hiding away from me. I don't intro myself to everyone I meet and I bet lots of guys don't either. I figured you would have read my shirt with my name on it so I didn't bother, plus you were a rude bastard!. I have my name on my shirt for my youtube channel thats all.
You didn't mention marking my truck with your knife either you FUK!! and I know it was you!!!!
Who gave you the dame right to order people around at 1 in the morning!!!! You had an attitude before I even got out of my truck.

I could go on about this but it's got way out of hand.
This was meant to be a thread of "Discussion" not pointing the finger to individuals and putting people down and discrediting them!. There are 2 sides to every story.
For you that enjoy my videos, I thank you. I'm not a wanker as he's making out, sure I cant please every one thats life.
I have been in the same suituation driving up to a camp and getting on with who ever has been there, just that this dick head "spat his dummy"

If anyone want to pm feel free.

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Well, Fuk me!!! Some of the shit you said was true but you left a lot out, funny that!!. We drove up at 1am of cause your gonna see lights!. Cant be helped making some noise. It doesn't matter if you have hunting there 20 years, It's not your spot!, it's doc land, I camped were I normally camp, plus I did use the same manuka branches. Who doesn't let their dogs out after 6 hours of travel! I didn't even know you had a dog!, And like you said I'm new to the area and this is where I found a descent camping spot close to the hunting area I wanted to hunt. When we got up that morning at 5:30 I told you I was going to, Also you tried to cover up your face with your camo scarf so I couldn't see you, Dodgy when you're speaking to someone, and no it wasn't cold either!. I got up and left with my mate and dog, my other mate stayed behind with his dog , NOT ME dick head!!!! I went down the track AND I TOLD YOU WHERE I WAS GOING AND I DID JUST THAT, I can even send you my gps tracks of where I went!! I didn't stoop around and wait for you to go, and follow you or what ever the shit you said!, I'm not a psycho either!. You didn't introduce YOURSELF EITHER!! covering up you're facing and hiding away from me. I don't intro myself to everyone I meet and I bet lots of guys don't either. I figured you would have read my shirt with my name on it so I didn't bother, plus you were a rude bastard!. I have my name on my shirt for my youtube channel thats all.
You didn't mention marking my truck with your knife either you FUK!! and I know it was you!!!!
Who gave you the dame right to order people around at 1 in the morning!!!! You had an attitude before I even got out of my truck.

I could go on about this but it's got way out of hand.
This was meant to be a thread of "Discussion" not pointing the finger to individuals and putting people down and discrediting them!. There are 2 sides to every story.
For you that enjoy my videos, I thank you. I'm not a wanker as he's making out, sure I cant please every one thats life.
I have been in the same suituation driving up to a camp and getting on with who ever has been there, just that this dick head "spat his dummy"

If anyone want to pm feel free.

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He is not the only one that thinks you are a wanker...I think you are as well.
Any chance of telling us where this great area you hunt in is...just so we can all avoid it...way too many wankers there already.

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Circus big top!

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Big tent for only two clowns

Can I have a seconder for a motion to deport both these wankers to the Chatham Islands ? They can each take one handbag, and we will send a search party out to look for survivors in about 5 years :pacman:

Jeez guys, the silly season is upon us, be safe out there ! They walk amongst us :o

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Jeez guys, the silly season is upon us, be safe out there ! They walk amongst us :o

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Can I have a seconder for a motion to deport both these wankers to the Chatham Islands ? They can each take one handbag, and we will send a search party out to look for survivors in about 5 years :pacman:

Jeez guys, the silly season is upon us, be safe out there ! They walk amongst us :o

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What have the people of the Chatham's done to deserve this two being dumped on them...Auckland Is. would be better...and they are not in Ponsonby.

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Can I have a seconder for a motion to deport both these wankers to the Chatham Islands ? They can each take one handbag, and we will send a search party out to look for survivors in about 5 years :pacman:

Jeez guys, the silly season is upon us, be safe out there ! They walk amongst us :o

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I would like to see a copy of this thread put on both their FAL file for when they come up for renewal...explain it away then.

Nonu might have to give the "handbag" to someone else....

Damm it , I leave the room for 5 minutes and look at the mess you guys make. :D


The thread has 132 likes at the moment. It cant be all bad.

@BRADS .

Your argument isn't looking to sound now is it!:D

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@BRADS .

Your argument isn't looking to sound now is it!:D

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Depends where they were born :D but looking bad for the NI hahaha

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He is not the only one that thinks you are a wanker...I think you are as well.
Any chance of telling us where this great area you hunt in is...just so we can all avoid it...way too many wankers there already.

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Go Fuk yourself!