Thread: .22lr rifles when did it become ok that they were all just crap?

I would like to add a few comments. Knowing both Gundoc and Mudgripz, I have perhaps a better understanding of where they are coming from. I have a lot of respect for Gundocs experience and knowledge. And I know the extent to which Mudgripz tests the rifles and he knows his stuff.

We sell the Toz 78s and the Toz 99s. And they come with spare magazines. If accuracy is more important, I would still say the bolt is the best way to go. The 78 will out shoot the 99 (semi auto) pretty much every time. But reliability of both will stand up against any other rifle. PM me or check trade me. I may still have a Sobol (Sporting version of the biathlon mentioned earlier.) But hey aint cheap and the Toz will usually be what I suggest.

With the Ruger 10/22 debate, I have had a few. I cannot comment on good ones versus bad ones but I know from my own experience, age matters. Older ones (pre 90s) seem to be of a better quality control than some of the ones in the 90s. And I had a bad experience with one of those and stayed away from them for the last 15 years. I own one now, though and am happy with it. Same for the Norinco. Some of the older ones circa 80s and 90s are much better made than SOME of the later ones. Hint: avoid any norinco that is branded polytech. I am yet to see a good one.....and consistent quality with that particular version seems to be an issue.

The EM332 is a very underrated rifle. If you get the chance grab one.

Originally Posted by timattalon

The EM332 is a very underrated rifle. If you get the chance grab one.

Would if I could, be nice if another shipment of them came in