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    Anyone know this peep sight?

    Hi, new to forum.
    Can anyone identify this sight and tell me how old it might be?
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    literaly just tonight I notice, while taking pictures, the TINY printing on it. it seems to say

    LYMAN
    reg???pat.APP

    not sure about the APP
    it looks to be a complete sight, nothing removed.
    Cheers
    Glen

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    Looks like a Lyman 1a tang sight to me.


    Cheers
    Pete

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    Thanks, live and learn, apparently my rifle is classified quite distinctly as a model 1892 saddle ring carbine. No idea what the difference is from a rifle. The sight is a lyman and was put on Winchesters but the only images I can find of this particular sight seems to be on an older version rifle than mine.
    Amazing I searched for the model 1892 about 10 years ago and there was only a tiny bit if information around. Now there's heaps.
    Very cool.

    I think the sight might say REG US PAT APP

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    Quote Originally Posted by glens View Post
    Thanks, live and learn, apparently my rifle is classified quite distinctly as a model 1892 saddle ring carbine. No idea what the difference is from a rifle.
    The lug on the side of the action in the second pic would typically have a ring through it.
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    Yes, the rifle belonged, as I understand it, to granddad, then dad, then ended up with mums dad (my other granddad), First I saw it it was discarded up under a house on the dirt at Raglan for about 10-15 years with an old hammer action shot gun and a Remington Model 341 "Sportmaster" .22, out of sight, out of mind.
    Then my uncle took it and removed the ring 'cause it rattled and scared the rabbits. he passed away and my other uncle got it.
    Finally he agreed to let me have it if I swapped it for the same.
    Looked for years and strangely was buying ammo in a shop in Whangarie when some random guy wandered in wanting to sell a 1892 32-20. What were the odds?? I explained why and asked if he'd sell it to me. (note one pissed off shop keeper looking at a 15 year old kid on a motor bike) Luckily he agreed because a month later all the other guns were stolen. That was 40 years ago!
    So now I've got a rifle that belonged to both my grandfathers.
    The bore was like a cheese grater and had to be cleaned with a wire brush after just 5 shots. Very accurate out to about 10 meters. Then more like a shotgun.
    Fortunately later Eagle Arms started in Tauranga and mine was one of, if not the first barrel they sleeved.
    Now it's a great gun for varminting and plinking, very accurate but still has all the original trademarks.
    Fortunately my daughter is keen on having it so it hopefully will stay in the family a few more years.

    ps if you know anyone selling a Remington Model 341 "Sportmaster" .22 I'd love to know. What a lovely rifle to use. Spent many happy hours wandering the hills carrying that.
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    @glens

    My lovely wife bought me an 1892 Winchester in 25-20 for my birthday a couple of years back.

    This Rifle was manufactured in 1910 and today still shoots better than I can aim it.

    Getting Ammo was a bit tricky to start with but after a bit of a search here and in Oz I now have enough supplies of reloading components to last me a life time.

    I've used it for shooting everything from Magpies to Goats.

    I love it.


    I also shoot with a Remington 552 Speedmaster manufactured in 1956, it's also an awesome rifle that still takes the rabbits for me.


    Cheers
    Pete
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    Got one in 32-20 with octagon barrel. Not as tidy as yours though

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    I love that gun. Right from the first time I picked it up as a kid of about 8.
    It's such a please to shoot. bigger than a .22 but about the same kick.
    Learn't more about this gun since P38 Pete identified the sight than I've found out in all these years.
    Now I need to find a supply of jacketed projectiles. Currently using lead slugs from a mold I made at ATI when I was a student there 35 years ago. Used lead from tyre weights as that was described back then as the best alloy to use.

    Haven't used anything much lately, Not worried about hunting, got that out of my system years ago, still love target shooting for fun though but finding anywhere near Auckland now is really difficult.

    Funny as teenagers we used to ride around most weekends on our motorcycles with rifles slung over our backs off to cull goats or shoot opossums etc. Trading 10 rabbit tails at the Te Kuiti council for 303 rounds which were useless to us until they changed and started giving .22ammo. cutting hare tails in half to make two rabbit tails and hopping the girl didn't take them out and check/count them.
    Doubt you'd get twenty yards down the road before being arrested nowadays.
    Got stopped by the cops (SIS I think it was) walking through downtown Auckland 35 years ago with a rifle. Asked why I had it and then let me carry on. Wouldn't even get asked nowadays I'd think. Just get surrounded by armed police. (quite rightly too!) but it shows how times have changed.
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    Brought some factory ammo a couple years ago, can't remember what brand, just rung around a bit. I'd like to get mine refurbished but I'd need to check the bore as it will likely be pitted

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    Wonder what the shelf life of all this ammo is?
    I've still got some old stirling .22 rounds from 40 years ago,
    200 wcf 32.20 factory copper clad rounds from about 35+ years ago.
    But I quite like loading my own shells. Both for the 32.20 and the 7mm08.
    Just need to use them more.
    Cheers

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    @glens

    Your ammo will be fine to shoot.

    I still have WW2 303 ammo that shoots perfectly.

    Got an unopened pack (200 rounds) of 308 with the compliments of Ian Smiths Army (for those that can remember back that far) too but wont be shooting any of that any time soon.

    If you interested in projectiles for your 32-20 I can hook you up with a Bloke in Tokoroa who casts excellent gas checked projectiles at reasonable $$$.

    The gas checked projectiles can be driven almost as fast as jacketed projectiles.

    I purchase 71gr 25cal gas checked projectiles off him for my 25-20wcf.

    Also there's plenty of new 32-20wcf brass around (if you know where to look).

    If you are interested in what year your rifle was manufactured look up the serial number in this document

    http://www.winchesterguns.com/suppor...-Documents.pdf

    Or this site
    http://oldguns.net/sn_php/winmods.htm

    Cheers
    Pete
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    Nice to see there is one or three 32-20's still getting outside for work.
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    Interesting all three of ours are the short magazine version and still diferent. The 32-20 I bought and traded for mine had a magazine the full length of the barrel. Looked quite cool.
    My saddle ring carbine has a different fore stock altogether.

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    Sorry about the weird picture, it's hosing down outside so I can't take a sexy photo.
    Luckily these old puppies were made with a high nickle steel so are fairly rust resistant compared to others.
    Remember when I restored this I was only 15/16 and didn't really care about originality, wouldn't of had the information available if I'd looked.
    I Remember soaking the woodwork in soapy water for days getting the s@#t out of it.
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    This is like I traded
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    The steel strap at the front of the barrel was a crappy home made piece so I had to hand file a replacement out of a solid block of steel. Took several days of filing and drilling but looked mint in the end.
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    Glens

    The short magazine on my Rifle is called a button magazine.

    Back in the day Winchester was a market leader in the fact that they would offer a standard rifle design with "Optional Variants" that the purchaser could order to semi customise their rifle.

    The Button magazine was one such "Option" available at the time.

    These Rifles were also bought through Mail Order Catalogue from companies such as Sears & Roebuck which was the equivalent of Shopping Online Today.

    So my rifle would have been ordered from Winchester, likely through a catalogue, with the Option of a Button Magazine instead of the standard full length magazine.

    BTW Sears & Roebuck were the masters of Mail Order Catalogue Companies back in the day and is now owned by Kmart.

    Cheers
    Pete

 

 

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