Thread: Anyone welded a receiver?

Yes Marlin 60 receiver with grooved mount is/was aluminium. I don't recall seeing a receiver not grooved for scope. Tricky trying to weld ali.

I may have a spare receiver sitting around here - will check tomorrow - 60 receivers did not change much over the decades. Will let you know..

Originally Posted by longshot

You have seen it happen, that fully trumps any other theory about it not happening or should not happen.

If you stated the make/model of rifle to the retailer, rather than a wrong spec, you are essentially still entitled to a full refund for the rings, and to be annoyed. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a small gesture of goodwill on their part either. But the retailer likely has very limited liability in terms of coming to the party on the rifle repairs.

The retailer saw the rifle when I bought it in over a year ago to get some rings, given its been so long, im not going to take the matter further, but I am going to question them on the rings, it was a different person in the store who served me who no longer works there. Ive hardly used the rifle in that time, I wouldnt have known none the wiser and the only reason i took the jolly scope off was to fit a flashlight mount on the rail and after all of that the mount didnt even fit. It was only when i fitted the scope back on that the damage occurred.

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Originally Posted by Old_School

That looks handy, is 3/8 weaver rail obtainable at all? Not that know of, why not go pick then so easy to find rings etc.

After a quick google, i found this. Im sure ive seen lower profile rails that were essentially a thin strip of alloy or steel that were profiled either side in the shape of the dovetail.

https://www.brownells.com/optics/rin...?sku=080031841

Seems everyone is using picatinny rails these days for the most part, so probably why they are harder to find.

I bought a 995 with cracked dovetails. I filed the top of the receiver flat then drilled 3 holes through from inside the receiver and countersunk them for M4 countersunk screws that screw into a tapped picatinny rail. I'll see if I can find some pics of my fix. It's not too much work if you can find someone with a mill. I would say that the receiver is too thin to tap threads into.

Here are a few pics. Picatinny rail tapped and helicoiled. I ended up using grade 12.9 M4 Torx csk screws eventually as I could torque them more than hex head without damage.

Originally Posted by takbok

I bought a 995 with cracked dovetails. I filed the top of the receiver flat then drilled 3 holes through from inside the receiver and countersunk them for M4 countersunk screws that screw into a tapped picatinny rail. I'll see if I can find some pics of my fix. It's not too much work if you can find someone with a mill. I would say that the receiver is too thin to tap threads into.

I see, so you have screwed it on from the underside.

It seemed like the simplest option for me, and the countersunk screws are self centering and spread the load pretty well on the thin cast aluminium receiver.

Originally Posted by takbok

It seemed like the simplest option for me, and the countersunk screws are self centering and spread the load pretty well on the thin cast aluminium receiver.

This is a option I could explore, how thick is the top of the receiver with the rail milled off? I'm guessing its real thin.

@Old_School I didn't mill the top of the receiver, I just draw filed it flat (removing minimal material) as the dovetails were bent/cracked and the surface wasn't flat. I think it's about 3-4mm thick, just enough for a M4 countersink making sure the heads are slightly recessed to avoid interfering with bolt travel.

Originally Posted by takbok

@Old_School I didn't mill the top of the receiver, I just draw filed it flat (removing minimal material) as the dovetails were bent/cracked and the surface wasn't flat. I think it's about 3-4mm thick, just enough for a M4 countersink making sure the heads are slightly recessed to avoid interfering with bolt travel.

Yeah, thats what i meant sorry. Draw filing it if done carefully would probably give you just as good results and if you are not careful with a mill, you could take more off than necessary unless you take your time, I can see why the gunsmith was a bit reluctant to just mill off the dovetail.

If it were my gun
I would drill and tap it and put a rail or a set of one piece rings on (like tellys)

I don’t know too much about welding but i no enough to say it’s probably not the best idea
It will be a cast alloy ether steel alloy or aluminium alloy receiver
There’s all sorts of things that can go wrong there
It’s already proven weak as you broke the dovetail off

It could crack or warp

Much safer to drill and tap a couple of holes

@Old_School yeah my dovetails are still there, I just made sure that the top of the receiver was nice and flat for mounting my rail. Filing just removed the distorted parts of dovetails and cleaned up the top face of receiver.

Originally Posted by takbok

@Old_School yeah my dovetails are still there, I just made sure that the top of the receiver was nice and flat for mounting my rail. Filing just removed the distorted parts of dovetails and cleaned up the top face of receiver.

OK, i see what you mean.
I had been looking at this here as a possible solution, it slides over the existing rail and the grubscrew holds it in place.
https://www.diproductsinc.com/Detail...64828&CAT=4803

Originally Posted by Old_School

OK, i see what you mean.
I had been looking at this here as a possible solution, it slides over the existing rail and the grubscrew holds it in place.
https://www.diproductsinc.com/Detail...64828&CAT=4803

That looks great. DIP makes lovely stuff. That's an aluminium DIP trigger and bottom metal on my Marlin.

Originally Posted by takbok

That looks great. DIP makes lovely stuff. That's an aluminium DIP trigger and bottom metal on my Marlin.

Those DIP trigger kits are popular, do you know if anyone stocks these rails in NZ?
I have read a bit from others who have had these rails slip, but i guess I could drill into the receiver a little for the grubscrews to grab onto?
Much cheaper solution than what the gunsmith offered and is essentially the same result.

I'm no expert on glue but I'd be surprised if you couldn't get something that would stick a pic rail on the receiver good and solid.

Definitely wouldn't be removable like a screwed on one but saves having to drill the receiver.