Thread: E-CAT Endorsement Requirements

Originally Posted by Savage1

Paranoia is a thought process believed to be heavily influenced by anxiety or fear, often to the point of delusion and irrationality.

I know some paranoid people who aren't like that, another type entirely - they have this belief that they are superior as they know the "real truth" and that the "sheeple" are being fed bullshit by the "lamestream media"
All terribly tiresome

I think being security conscious is fair enough but some paranoiacs have trouble understanding that they aren't worth being a target as they aren't that important

Originally Posted by Savage1

Paranoia is a thought process believed to be heavily influenced by anxiety or fear, often to the point of delusion and irrationality.

The fear of having firearms stolen is a rational fear, something worth being anxious about, and taking steps to prevent.
The fear of the aliens (who are bankrolled by the Illuminati) reading your thoughts via a satellite is irrational, and wearing a tinfoil hat to prevent it is silly.

Originally Posted by tommygun

The fear of having firearms stolen is a rational fear, something worth being anxious about, and taking steps to prevent.
The fear of the aliens (who are bankrolled by the Illuminati) reading your thoughts via a satellite is irrational, and wearing a tinfoil hat to prevent it is silly.

I love these ones....Why would aliens travel that far and wonder what we are thinking? It would mean as much to them as us developing the same technology then using it on sheep to find out what they are thinking......And for the conspiracy that they are in league with other humans; well, would you conspire with a sheep to find out what other sheep are thinking? Or are you like everyone else and dont really give a toss what food thinks?

And finally as a paraphrase from a movie called "Paul" re the abduction and anal probing, would they really travel that far just to harvest farts?

Originally Posted by Savage1

Paranoia is a thought process believed to be heavily influenced by anxiety or fear, often to the point of delusion and irrationality.

... And police and their association are demonstrating a firm grasp of this thought concept.

Originally Posted by Savage1

Paranoia is a thought process believed to be heavily influenced by anxiety or fear, often to the point of delusion and irrationality.

That must be why the police tool-up with assault rifles, hi-capacity pistols, stun guns and body armour, when they go out to mix and mingle with their public that loves them. When they get a little more anxious they go full Swat with the black ninja gear, attack dogs, helicopters, snipers, to arrest a fat man hiding in closet.

Originally Posted by JWB

That must be why the police tool-up with assault rifles, hi-capacity pistols, stun guns and body armour, when they go out to mix and mingle with their public that loves them. When they get a little more anxious they go full Swat with the black ninja gear, attack dogs, helicopters, snipers, to arrest a fat man hiding in closet.

Yeah police show the following symptons of intense paranoia:
- No general arming
- Not wearing ballistic body armour when dealing with the general public that loves them
- Often work alone
- Don't have assault rifles
- Use standard capacity magazines in their pistols

Next time there is a high risk job with little intel I'll try my best to get them to contact you for some expert Internet Warrior advice on how to deal with the fluid situation.

For those wondering what the NZ Police Association was saying about this thread in their submission:



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As we know they are reading this, let's show them what the law ACTUALLY requires:

Arms Act 1983
30B Power to make endorsement in respect of military style semi-automatic firearm

On receiving an application under section 30A, a member of the Police may, subject to any direction from the Commissioner, make the endorsement applied for if that member is satisfied that the applicant is a fit and proper person to be in possession of the military style semi-automatic firearm to which that application relates.

Where's the "requirements on legitimate membership of Rifle Club, participating in’3 gun matches’ " or " the need for pest control "?

There isn't one. The drafter of that document (perhaps the President of the Police Association?) is either incompetent or a liar.

Any lawful purpose IS a valid use for a MSSA. Not the reasons that the NZ Police Association feel is 'suitable'.

Originally Posted by Koshogi

For those wondering what the NZ Police Association was saying about this thread in their submission:

Attachment 66926

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Attachment 66927

As we know they are reading this, let's show them what the law ACTUALLY requires:

Arms Act 1983
30B Power to make endorsement in respect of military style semi-automatic firearm

On receiving an application under section 30A, a member of the Police may, subject to any direction from the Commissioner, make the endorsement applied for if that member is satisfied that the applicant is a fit and proper person to be in possession of the military style semi-automatic firearm to which that application relates.

Where's the "requirements on legitimate membership of Rifle Club, participating in’3 gun matches’ " or " the need for pest control "?

There isn't one. The drafter of that document (perhaps the President of the Police Association?) is either incompetent or a liar.

Any lawful purpose IS a valid use for a MSSA. Not the reasons that the NZ Police Association feel is 'suitable'.

Exactly and hunting is pest control, I know a few farms i had access too had big old bull holes that the rabbets would love to dig and play in, sometimes u would walk up and 5 rabbits would take off in all directions.

Their lies and bullshit and own statistics are all ammo we can use against them.

Just to add on to the manufacturing of arms. A quick YouTube and Google provides a wide range of information on how to make a fully automatic sub machine gun or pistols. Shit ones but nonetheless they'll still fire bullets and lots of them. They've found them in Australia so it's not inconceivable that the knowledge and experience has cone across the ditch.

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3D printing and someone who's "good with tools" can make anything now.

You will need a permit to procure a printer or a lathe next 😣
Next stop dictatorship.

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i cant warrant applying for a E cat with my current shooting activities and the costs to do so but that doesnt stop me from owning exactly the same semi auto firearm with a smaller capacity magazine and storing it in a safe which wouldnt meet the standards of an E cat license holder makes me wonder if it is just a money gathering scheme cause it makes no difference what so ever to the functionality of the firearm.

Originally Posted by matto1234

i cant warrant applying for a E cat with my current shooting activities and the costs to do so but that doesnt stop me from owning exactly the same semi auto firearm with a smaller capacity magazine and storing it in a safe which wouldnt meet the standards of an E cat license holder makes me wonder if it is just a money gathering scheme cause it makes no difference what so ever to the functionality of the firearm.

Yea that's one thing I've never been able to grasp with E-cat, my A-cat semi auto functions exactly the same but it's just looks uglier and I have to reload more often. It would be nice to have my SLR looking 'proper' but in my current situation I can't justify spending that much more money on a new safe + licence just to have a bigger mag and better aesthetics. I guess that's why the Police are pushing to make ALL semi autos E-cat.

Be looking forward to my new government subsidized E cat safe and endorsement fee waiver then