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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesgn8 View Post
    ...xbolt are considerably lighter...
    I see.

    So these Brownings of yours are listed as 2.7kg bare, with a 16” barrel.

    A Tikka T3x Lite with a regular 20” barrel is 2.9kg. Allowing approx 30g per inch of barrel, a 16” unfluted Tikka will weigh around... 2.78kg.

    So your “considerably” equates to ~80g, at the most.

    If you compare apples with apples, and select a fluted Tikka at 16”, e.g. the Superlite, the Tikka will be slightly lighter than your Browning.

    You’ve been getting a bit of a hard time these past 12 hours or so but I think you’ll learn from it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flyblown View Post
    I see.

    So these Brownings of yours are listed as 2.7kg bare, with a 16” barrel.

    A Tikka T3x Lite with a regular 20” barrel is 2.9kg. Allowing approx 30g per inch of barrel, a 16” unfluted Tikka will weigh around... 2.78kg.

    So your “considerably” equates to ~80g, at the most.

    If you compare apples with apples, and select a fluted Tikka at 16”, e.g. the Superlite, the Tikka will be slightly lighter than your Browning.

    You’ve been getting a bit of a hard time these past 12 hours or so but I think you’ll learn from it.
    Tikka is listed as 2.8kg with 570mm/22.4” barrel


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    Quote Originally Posted by Flyblown View Post
    I see.

    So these Brownings of yours are listed as 2.7kg bare, with a 16” barrel.

    A Tikka T3x Lite with a regular 20” barrel is 2.9kg. Allowing approx 30g per inch of barrel, a 16” unfluted Tikka will weigh around... 2.78kg.

    So your “considerably” equates to ~80g, at the most.

    If you compare apples with apples, and select a fluted Tikka at 16”, e.g. the Superlite, the Tikka will be slightly lighter than your Browning.

    You’ve been getting a bit of a hard time these past 12 hours or so but I think you’ll learn from it.
    I was comparing the T3 not T3x. T3x definitely improved. Probably didnt word that right. In terms of free hand shooting x-bolts are more balanced which makes feel lot lighter and easier to shoot.


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    T3's area good lightweight tool. And if it gets hurt, who cares?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesgn8 View Post
    In terms of free hand shooting x-bolts are more balanced which makes feel lot lighter and easier to shoot.


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    ....insert subjectivity here....

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    Again, too subjective @jamesgn8.

    X-Bolts come in a huge variety of shapes / sizes / styles. Try shooting offhand with a suppressed X-Bolt Hell’s Canyon.

    The main difference in balance and feel in offhand shooting is all in the short barrel, and what may or may not be hanging off the end. Not because it is specifically an X-Bolt vs a Tikka or anything else. Simple physics.

    Rifle fit and feel is highly subjective and varies from one person to another. I don’t like the X-Bolt feel at all because the narrow forend feels all wrong in my hands, that’s just how I feel about it. But it does not make another brand that fits me better necessarily superior. I don’t like the Kimber either. And I’ve changed my Tikka stock to a lightweight chassis, which is a perfect fit and is a vast improvement in felt recoil. For me. Not necessarily for you.

    This is the problem with so many of our forum comparisons. Rifles are like shoes, or cars, or smartphones. They all do the same thing, but what’s best in terms of fit, bling, price or condition is very much an individual preference.

    I’ve always thought that when you’re trying to sell something, it’s best to leave the comparisons out of the pitch, because it automatically gives reason for a whole bunch of smart arses like me to argue with you (which we enjoy). The best sales pitches for used items such as this are straightforward factual ones with no room for quibbling. We all know what it is and don’t need Used Car Salesman to make an assessment.
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    Agreed - x-bolt is too small and light for me with my fingers like sausages. I tried them a few times and they felt like toys to me, with the fit all wrong. That’s just me and I’m sure they fit others better. I have two T3s in .284 Win and .300 WM. Both have Remington style integral lugs and are bedded, and the WM has a Bartlein barrel.

    At the price point I feel the quality of the T3 action, trigger and barrel as a combo is hard to beat. Even the stocks, which get a hard time on forums, are good and do not flex as is often claimed. Overall, they are quality, light, and popular for a reason.

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    And you never hear my Tikka won’t shoot but have heard the Brownings won’t shoot from
    numerous circles..
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    @7RMBoy you haven't mentioned how you plan to shoot your 7m08, whether you reload, and if you are prepared to get a rifle modified.

    Short of securing yourself one of Scott Traills SSR masterpieces (I'm forever looking out for these to come up for sale), you can go crazy if you are willing to shoot within 400m, reload, and happy to get something modified.
    A Tikka T3, with a carbon stock (STUG if you can get one), barrel cut to 12", and a lightweight optic will probably have you under 5lb.

    For all the people who think this is just batshit crazy, a number of the SSR .308's were running 10" barrels, and taking a lot of deer.
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    @quentin I have had a forum members SSR on my bench with multiple manufacturers faults that needed to be diagnosed and fixed
    It's still a work in progress

    I was always keen to get my hands on one and see if they lived up to the hype
    And it was one of the left handed ones
    So doubly keen

    I was underwhelmed
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    Here's a good proven lightweight
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    Or get OverWhelen'd

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    Good thread. Getting sick of my lugging my 4.5 kilo rifle around in the bush and now I know which rifles to keep an eye out for when I have saved up enough to splurge. But then again the heavy gun gives my arms a good workout after carrying it around for hours.

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    The Savage lightweights are a good option too - cheaper and lighter than a T3, accurate, great trigger, 3-stage tang safety etc... not saying T3s aren't good rifles, but whenever I've used one I've been happy to go back to my Savages afterwards.
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    Just because I'm bored at work. On paper, my T3x Stainless Lite with DPT s/s suppressor and a fairly standard scope comes in at under 3.6kg.

 

 

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