Thread: List of All Firearms Retailers in New Zealand

Originally Posted by Cordite

On balance, just, it's probably not helpful to the LFAO cause, nor in general, to speak of a serving police officer that way.

I disagree with him, he seems manipulative and economical with the truth... but hold back from C words, if nothing else out of respect for every cop past and present who has worn the police uniform.

Fair call @Cordite. I dont use obscenities on typed posts except on rare occasions, and usually in a more humorous context. While he is clearly misrepresenting as much information as comes out of his mouth, I concede that its possible that he believes what he is doing and is potentially being (mis?) informed by those around him. Even so, he is not doing enough to justify being called the C word. I was just suggesting that his behaviour and distortions of truth are reflecting on him and that his name is starting to be used as a description or example of someone who lies in the same way as the words politician or lawyer is associated with dishonesty.

As for his motives....Well if he is genuinely primarily trying to protect the Police officers to make sure they come home safe then I am fine with that, I simply and wholeheartedly disagree with what he is doing, and how he is doing it. If, however, he is using his position to further his own political agenda then I think he and the Police association needs to seriously reconsider his position as he is doing more damage to their cause every time he is caught misrepresenting the truth.

Some of his desires have serious financial repercussions and while in principle I struggle to find reasons why not to try them, I feel that the resources involved could make a far bigger difference elsewhere.

One reason given to me by a colleague for a register is apparently a person managed to buy nearly 70 firearms from stores and supply them to gangs, and this would have been picked up by a register as they would have wondered why he had that many firearms.....which made sense until I asked where he bought them from. Assorted gun shops, to which I pointed out, these are registered as effectively as an firearms register is already. Each sale is recorded by firearms retailers and audited by the police. So there is already a record of which firearms he obtained. And when I questioned this colleague, he admitted that this was how the fellow got caught so the system we have in place works as well as any future register anyway......

I have not seen the article so I apologize if there are inaccuracies, and if anyone remembers the article or knows where it is, post it here as a reply and we can discuss the actual situation if need be.