I was wondering if anybody knows how these rifles are working out for the NZDF.
I did read that they had firing pin issues when first introduced, but haven't read anything since then.
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I was wondering if anybody knows how these rifles are working out for the NZDF.
I did read that they had firing pin issues when first introduced, but haven't read anything since then.
I remember reading that and something about bolts cracking both to do with hardening I think? LMT resolved both issues I understand.
I've read and heard first hand the troops love them.
Maybe of interest
https://youtu.be/R_heB1cvlvU
The firing pin issue got sorted under warranty. They are a big upgrade over the styer
LMT = :sarge:
I replace my firing pin, BCG and upgraded to the enhanced bolt.
Guessing it will never fail in my lifetime... :(
I asked a guy in the Territorials, he said even a few weeks after being issued them, they were shooting similar scores to what they did with the Steyrs and years of familiarity, he seemed to like them.
They're very good, much better than the old Steyr IMO.
Good bit of kit, all the issues to date have been ironed out. Only wish I could take out the ambi mag release
The Steyr was a good rifle taking into account it was a 1988 weapon system.
MARSL is the bee knees and LMT have looked after us very well.
Did New Zealand trial the HK416/17 series?
If so,why was the LMT chosen over HK?
Nice to know the NZDF have some decent rifles , I hope they start stock piling ammo , parts & more rifles ...I wonder how they would get on getting any of the above in our current state , We all know how much of a pain in the ass it is getting ammo or powder when the yanks start stock piling , let alone another war.
photos please.....this old fart hasnt seen one yet.
bring back the SLR
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There ya go.
Ours is the one on the bottom, I think.
That's where the tax money you'd have spent on beer went instead.
What weight projectile is the MARS-L using? I see it has a 1:7” barrel.
The LMT is a good weapon and gucci with the acog and rmr, it looks cool and it functions and shoots well, only thing I don't like is the sharp corners and the nooks and crannies like the foregrip that is hard to clean. It also seems really counterintuitive to have to cock the action to apply the safety but I guess that's just how it is.
I think it was a foregone conclusion that NZ would go with an ar platform for international compatibility if nothing else. Personally I liked the feel and balance of the steyr more, it had a horrible trigger but if they had gone as the Australians did and put a rail and acog on it would probably have shot as well.
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Is the criticism towards the AUG based more on them being shot to shit and falling apart? The one's I've messed with in the civilian world have been very capable and reliable, very accurate with a good optic. My good mate loved his when he was serving. I'd buy one if aunty would let me.
Yes I think my mates one was an Austrian made one and he remarked that they were better than the Aussie ones. The only real gripe I had with the limited time I had was splitting my nuckles open when charging the flat top versions.
I shot service rifle with an ex army guy that had a flat top with a Leupold HAMR on it and he was very competitive with it.
Evolution of the NZ Service Rifle
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Am doing something similar with NZ service pistols. List incomplete:
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so....it is in effect a tacticoolafied version of the M16????? eg heart of thing is similar but the stock has been doctored a lot.....
I have a long list of gripes but then I am a lefty and I had used a lot of different rifles before the IW Steyr. I found that a few of NZDF who had learned to shoot with one liked them but most people who shot outside in civi street didn't. Interestingly my first issue one was Austrian made and it was definitely made better than an Australian one.
Tried shooting a Steyr while wearing body armor? No LOP adjustment.
The trigger was definitely horrible.
donuts scope = horrible
jammed something chronic with sand (dirt wasn't such a problem)
plastic charging handle breaking off it's steel sprue
lots of small parts to loose in a feild strip
horrible safety
but cap retention thingee = horrible
mag change and chamber behind your face so more difficult to visualy check
in a vehicle or urban combat where lenght is crucial they definitely have some good points
round n round they go......they might start on different design in a few years and start issueing SMLE again lol.