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    I think this cartridge is being aimed solely at hunters who buy a factory rifle and factory ammo, shoot a few boxes a year and that’s it.
    Which likely is 90% of the hunting market in the USA.

    For handloaders this will need to have other “brass” sources or it won’t be appealing at all.
    Even then it doesn’t offer any real benefit over 7PRC (or similar) other than burning a little less powder, but it’s unsure what the repercussions of that pressure will be.

    This cartridge will live or die based on why factory rifles it comes in and the supply of ammo.
    If the supply of ammo dries up, or has any issues then this cartridge will die very quickly.
    Basically if they can do a Hornady (good factory rifles, ammo and support for handloaders) I can see it being an interesting option, if they don’t do that then there is no way it’ll last.

    It’s interesting they’re advertising it being available in both very cheap rifles (Savage) and very expensive custom rifles (Gun Werks, Proof Research).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetroot View Post
    I think this cartridge is being aimed solely at hunters who buy a factory rifle and factory ammo, shoot a few boxes a year and that’s it.
    Which likely is 90% of the hunting market in the USA.

    For handloaders this will need to have other “brass” sources or it won’t be appealing at all.
    Even then it doesn’t offer any real benefit over 7PRC (or similar) other than burning a little less powder, but it’s unsure what the repercussions of that pressure will be.

    This cartridge will live or die based on why factory rifles it comes in and the supply of ammo.
    If the supply of ammo dries up, or has any issues then this cartridge will die very quickly.
    Basically if they can do a Hornady (good factory rifles, ammo and support for handloaders) I can see it being an interesting option, if they don’t do that then there is no way it’ll last.

    It’s interesting they’re advertising it being available in both very cheap rifles (Savage) and very expensive custom rifles (Gun Werks, Proof Research).
    Many many moons ago Greg Duley made the same comment about NZ hunters. Some times only 1 packet of ammo a year excluding the opening morning duckies.

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    Be interesting if the current AMP setups can handle the new casing.

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    Horizon firearms have made 100 or so of these rifles since October last year, they've tested this cartridge fairly well by the sounds and are claiming between 1500 and 1800 rounds worth of barrel life, which if accurate isn't that bad at all considering. Another train of thought i had, with the likes of the pressure being pushed up to 80000 because the case is hard enough to take it, then assuredly, hard brass the likes of adg can handle extra pressure right? If so, 7prc can get 3000 fps from a 20" barrel with 175s and re26 no problems. Mine is, and primers are happy as, no sticky bolt lift either. That being the case, many other cartridges could benefit from harder brass right? Maybe this technology will pave the way for opening up Saami specs to an update or atleast variations, legalities aside.

 

 

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