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    Open sights and suppressors

    Hey team,
    Currently in the process of setting up a bergara ba13 single shot and will be suppressing it. My question is how would one go about setting it up with open sights as well? I already have a dpt mini magnum suppressor for it which is over barrel by a little bit which makes it go over the mounting holes for the front sight.
    I've explored the idea of a red dot and a low power scope but my first preference would be open sights.
    Is it as simple as getting the front sight drilled and tapped to be just behind the suppressor?
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    Chances are the suppressor will be higher than the open sights and you won’t be able to see through them. It sounds like you have your sights though? You could blue tack your front sight in place to see how it looks, if still usable then yes it is as simple as you say to just have new holes drilled and tapped.

    Your other option is to get flip up open sights that fit on the picatinny rail, this will leave you with a very short sighting radius however, which as a rule will decrease your accuracy.

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    There's an option for a ring type front sight that clamps around suppressors. Made by some Euro suppressor manufacturers. I can't remember who makes it, I've linked it here before though. Would be easy to get one made I reckon.

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    I'm just about to do this for the Baikal 30-30 I have made
    I will use a swivel mount stud through the Back bushing of the suppressor as a timing screw into a location blind hole in the barrel
    Then I can mount a front sight blade on the top front of the suppressor

    Look at the height and fabricate a rear flip up sight for the weaver scope rail
    Would need to run QD mounts

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    Guess if it was straightforward there would be more people doing it. Maybe need to go back to the drawing board for a think

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    the magic lazer beam is the other way to do it..... it could stay on permanently and be used with or without scope.
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    there are also short radius ones that will go into scope bases....so think pistol sights 4-6" apart
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    I just bought a muzzle forward main bit for mine when I shoot with the opens,then swap baffles from the overbarrel onto it.,will post pictures after dinner.
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    @cheeseclip, I've played with several options in this space.

    Red dot will be by far the easiest option.

    With open sights, sight radius is your friend, so I moved the rear sight from the barrel mounting position to the "chamber" to increase it.

    I initially tried a DIY, smaller diameter suppressor, but was never really happy with the accuracy I got from that. Even with the smaller diameter can, I ended up having to make a riser block for the factory front sight blade, so that it was visible over the suppressor. Obviously if you want max sight radius you should be looking at a forward can (assuming you want a front blade).

    The other major hurdle was the design of the BA13 stock. The Monte Carlo type cheek riser is meant to get your head in the correct position for a scope, but sucks when you are using open sights.

    I have a functional setup at this stage, with a Skinner sight kinda grafted onto the rear end of the picatinny rail, and the front blade on a small riser block, but to be honest I would prefer both the rear and front sight to be around 5mm higher for better natural alignment. That is on the to-do list for machining, not sure when I will get to it...

    Using a red-dot will bypass all of those headaches. Something like a Holosun 507c v2 reflex sight would be just about perfect IMHO.
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    Open sights and suppressors



    This worked well for me.
    Measure your existing sights as they may clear the suppressor, height wise at least.


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