Errr...I think you missed my point . What you wrote is exactly my point. Factory Marlins are better than factory Rugers, hence the need for Ruger owners to do mids and upgrades. My post was directed at timattalon's post about Ruger's appeal being "(it is) an outstandingly practical design. Simple, effective and relatively easy to manufacture". I was saying Marlins are just as good in these aspects plus being cheaper and more accurate - hence my comment about "the irony".
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