Can a sako carbon lite latte be converted to saum?
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Can a sako carbon lite latte be converted to saum?
YesQuote:
Originally Posted by 300_BLK
Oooh what does "stugged"ing a finlight involve? I'm intrigued
Similar to Hardying it :-)
its still a t3 at the end of the day
Action wise yesQuote:
Originally Posted by scoped
I would expect them to be pretty shit hot at that price.
What is interesting is how pimping up a good rifle to the max with modern materials seems to be reaching a ceiling at the $5000 to $6000.
As if you place an order for a very fancy traditional custom wood and blue steel rifle , $6000 might be just the deposit for the order .
After reading the article in the precedent pages, I wonder what hardy is gona be making next.... That is going to require 3 time the amount of staff he has got: who want to speculate ?
I say an ammo plant
Priceless, well less than one of these tiki things anyhowQuote:
Originally Posted by 257weatherby
5k? Just to be a sheep and no doubt many will be 7mm08..... 5k to shoot no further than 550y? like I said before its just H&f putting that guy up for selling shit en masse
Righto that's their choice but seriously you could quite easily build one yourself for cheaper with a better action(HOWA comes to mind for less $).
How do the carbon barrels hold up, epoxy isnt really considered a high temp material with max working temps of 100-150c
There are epoxies resisting 160 to 180 degreesC. Carbon can resist much higher temperatures.
But maybe that the metal of the barrel never really reach those 150 degreesC in a normal bolt action rifle?
Boot it with your Howa support programmeQuote:
Originally Posted by Rock river arms hunter
I just bought a Howa :o
I just had a look at it not 2 badQuote:
Originally Posted by Timmay
Get ya grubby hands off it!!
The actual interesting part is the effect of the harmonic vibrations on the carbon/steel bond. When you fire your rifle, the barrel "waves" like a flagpole in the wind. I imagine that eventually, the bond between the steel and the carbon will start to de-laminate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Friwi
EDIT: There's also a question about how the carbon wrapping does in terms of heat dissipation. The carbon wrap is like a giant layer of insulation, would the barrel stay hotter for longer?
There are studies done on this with sustained fire weapons. The verdict is that the heat build up will often cause de-lamination.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chilli_Dog
Well maybe these do work ok, Im never going to spend that much money on one, it is just the engineer in my questioning things, there was also a comment in the article about it helping with heat dissipation which raised some flags since a carbon epoxy composite is a reasonably good insulator.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daggers_187
It would be interesting to see what the layup is and how they get around any delamination problems when it is cured with the different thermal expansion rates. At a guess I would say that if you can have the finished barrel with the carbon tube being a tight fit over the steel the actual bond between the two may not be all that important because the modulus of steel and carbon is so different
Carbon coating barrels is not a new thing , magnum research have been doing it for years, they even produce a composite barrel, volquartson do it as well.
And Remington pioneered it in the 90's I believe.
Pretty sure you wouldn't invest millions into producing and selling these things if they were going to de-laminate etc etc...
I've decided to find out for myself.
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Yip me two
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I have had my ABS barrel since 2006 (they sold out to Proof Research), so they have been around for a whileQuote:
Originally Posted by Taff
Has it de-laminated in the 10 years you have been shooting it?Quote:
Originally Posted by mikee
There is a lot of nay saying about the carbon barrels but if they are still being sold and used in competition then they will be fine.
There are different types of carbon fibres and each have different thermal properties.
Nope and I have had is sooo hot shooting IPSC 3 gun, although now its been retired to the safeQuote:
Originally Posted by 300_BLK
Yeah nahQuote:
Originally Posted by buzzman
It would be interesting to see how long it is going to take to sale. Which h+f store was it?
in parmy but have seen them taupo Napier and wanganui as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by Friwi
Saw one in HnF Napier today. Nice stock but not my cup of tea.
The barrel looks to have very little clearance between it and the forend of the stock.
Seen one for $4100.Quote:
Originally Posted by buzzman
Really cool.
But wow.... I mean, the Stock Tikka shoots nice anyhow.... but if I had unlimited cash.... I would probably still not get one..hahahaaa
They're 'avin a laugh at that price.
Basic gun maybe 1600, stock 1300, can 500 so the other minor embellishments are $1100.
Line up suckers..
Sell a payment not a price. That's the first rule of selling consumer goods.
Because they have loaded the price by $1000 they can offer "interest free" and someone will lap up the "it's only $35 a week interest free for 3 years" and buy it.
Haha was just in hunting and fishing the other day in taupo to grab a permit and I saw quite a few people eyeing these things. Makes you wonder how often they are getting out and using it when they are paying that kind of coin?
How does that theory work? Earn lots of money, no time to play?Quote:
Originally Posted by keenbloke
Ohh nah these looked like the tourist time. Coin but no experience ;)
Just get you own done at Hardy way cheaper barrel $1500 stock $600. And your action
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For that sort of money invested in a Barrel personally I would be buying a Proof Research one. They have been doing it a wee bit longerQuote:
Originally Posted by 25/08IMP