TradeMe magazine policy

Just a heads up for anyone who cares - TradeMe have advised they are more strictly enforcing their policies regarding magazines (I found out after they pulled yet another of my listings).

They've killed my listings for new 10 round .303 Lee Enfield magazines and now advise they will also be doing the same for centerfire rifles listed with any magazine greater than 7 rounds, regardless of whether it is bolt action or semi automatic.

I will be listing more of my stuff elsewhere but don't want to say where due to being on my final warning here (hence my relative silence lately). Obviously TradeMe won't miss anybody's business but I still feel it is worthwhile to support the alternatives.

Steve

Gunstuff?

or on here at nzhuntingandshooting.co.nz :thumbsup:

Bloody trade me are such a bunch of idiots do they not understand that the 7 shot rule only applies to Semi Auto centerfires not friggin bolt action it is time for them nit picking idiots to read the firearms laws and code.

Shouldn't the Police be contacted and advised what Tardeme are doing.
Where I work we had concerns about the amount of people selling class A drugs on Tardeme (Peyote). The Police were contacted and advised Tardme to change their policy and as far as I'm aware they did.

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Originally Posted by possum_shooter

Shouldn't the Police be contacted and advised what Tardeme are doing.
Where I work we had concerns about the amount of people selling class A drugs on Tardeme (Peyote). The Police were contacted and advised Tardme to change their policy and as far as I'm aware they did.

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Why? They are not doing anything illegal. Their sandpit, their rules. If they broke the law then different story.
Unfortunately stupid is still legal.

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Originally Posted by possum_shooter

Shouldn't the Police be contacted and advised what Tardeme are doing.

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+1

And inform them that you have referred the matter to the Police, with the Trademe contacts details.

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Originally Posted by kiwijames

Why? They are not doing anything illegal. Their sandpit, their rules. If they broke the law then different story.
Unfortunately stupid is still legal.

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So you don't think allowing people to sell class a drugs on a web site if wrong? Could you please explain why? A little confused here

Inform Police, give them the name of the TradeMe person who's recommending you break the law. Also inform TM, you can call them (04) 803 2600 rather than use the 0900 number. Ask to speak to Operations Manager. Option 2 is to contact the media, TM usually reply to their inquiries knowing bad PR is a no no.

To OP, yes it's a pain, but the high number of morons who purchase large capacity magazines, then slap them into non-endorsed firearms really is the cause of the problem. Probably won't be long till magazine sales with require a P2P :-(

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Originally Posted by possum_shooter

So you don't think allowing people to sell class a drugs on a web site if wrong? Could you please explain why? A little confused here

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You did say you were concerned with the "amount" of people selling drugs, not the actual selling of them...or did I read that wrong?

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Originally Posted by Kscott

Inform Police, give them the name of the TradeMe person who's recommending you break the law. Also inform TM, you can call them (04) 803 2600 rather than use the 0900 number. Ask to speak to Operations Manager. Option 2 is to contact the media, TM usually reply to their inquiries knowing bad PR is a no no.

To OP, yes it's a pain, but the high number of morons who purchase large capacity magazines, then slap them into non-endorsed firearms really is the cause of the problem. Probably won't be long till magazine sales with require a P2P :-(

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actually the moronic endorsement system is the problem

Trade Me employ many muppets, some of these muppets have some idea as to what is going on and some of the muppets are, just muppets...depending on the luck of the draw as to which muppet you get when dealing with them...never, never try to deal with the weekend muppets as the "good" muppets are home on weekends...the problem lies in their interpretation of their own rules...some see a full stop after "large capacity magazines" and don't read the full sentence...an easy mistake too make, for a muppet.

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Originally Posted by possum_shooter

So you don't think allowing people to sell class a drugs on a web site if wrong? Could you please explain why? A little confused here

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My reply was in the context of the OP, not your issue.
Certainly I would not condone the illegal sale of drugs and I commend the guy who would not hand over the rifle without correct procedure followed through.
TradeMe are there own though and are free to do as they wish (within the law). If it is to their disservice so be it, but I would very much doubt they really care too much about a niche sport such as hunting.

Spook, I like your muppet illustration. I had to deal a few times with the front muppet, and when I came up with argument he could not replied to then the muppet manager took over. There was a bit more IQ with that chief muppet and things stood at a stand still and did not get further. Chief Muppet saw were I was coming from.

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Originally Posted by kiwijames

Why? They are not doing anything illegal. Their sandpit, their rules. If they broke the law then different story.
Unfortunately stupid is still legal.

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They are encouraging/trying to make the seller break the law, hence the Police should be notified IMHO.

regards

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Originally Posted by gimp

actually the moronic endorsement system is the problem

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Yeah sort of. It's what we have to work with at the moment which realistically won't be changing. The more muppets who choose to do things their own way result in more restrictions for everyone else eventually. The willingness of people to own and sell large capacity mags is probably worthy of a different thread ;)

I can't understand why are they banning high capacity mag when you can buy them from any gun shop without a licence, yet if you want ammunition trademe has no problem allowing people to sell large quantities of ammo (I have no problem with this of course). eg 50 BMG ball 1 box of 100 linked | Trade Me, or even 1000 rounds of 223.

I would say that gunstuff would love trademe to banned more firearms products then they would see more traffic there way :thumbsup:

We had another option for a little while when wheedle started up and they shut down due to lack of support from the punters as they all chose to stay on trade me. I feel that trademe would not have become the pack of nazis they are now if had not been sold to the current owners.

Wheedle was a very poorly conceived and executed attempt at competing with TM.

TradeMe could double their fees overnight and people will still use it. It's a business force unto itself.

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Originally Posted by Kscott

TradeMe could double their fees overnight and people will still use it. It's a business force unto itself.

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only auction site that could compete with trademe would be if Ebay opened an NZ site. trademe is so big now it basically can swash anyone from starting or even trying to compete. When ever there is a monopoly there should be a commerce commission keeping an eye on them

Buy shares in Trade Me and recoup your money...easy fix

I used to sell a lot of things through trademe but rarely use it now as fees are so high and ird watch it etc. now I find myself selling the stuff I used to pay trademe for the pleasure on forums and Facebook pages for free. Works for me

Sent from my workbench

trade me have no idea when it comes to firearms laws so its easier for them to say no mags over 7 rounds rather than work out weather its for a semi or a bolt action mind you im pretty sure you are allowed to have a hi cap mag for display as long as you don't own a compatible firearm correct me if im wrong?

So basically you can't sell Lee Enfields with a mag now?

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Originally Posted by Beavis

So basically you can't sell Lee Enfields with a mag now?

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If one wishes to sell on Trade Me, then yes you can...just don't mention how many rounds the mag holds...simple really. I have sold several 10 shot magazined LE's on Trade Me and have never had a problem. If anyone asks a question on the listing as too how many rounds fit in the mag, I just tell them 5 + 5.

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Originally Posted by kiwijames

8><--- I would very much doubt they really care too much about a niche sport such as hunting.

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yep, pretty sure TM said a while back they were considering dropping selling rifles etc as it was more hassle than it was worth.

regards

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Originally Posted by Beavis

So basically you can't sell Lee Enfields with a mag now?

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A seller is trying, now, to list two consecutively numbered SMLE #1 mk 3's.

Latest looney decision from TradeMe is that he cannot include them in the same auction, he must list them separately. God knows why. It can't be because they think he is trying to avoid sucess fees as the two together are going to attract a higher price that sold separately.

Muppets at the tiller.

GunStuff.co.nz to see an upswing of A category firearms for sale...

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Originally Posted by Beavis

So basically you can't sell Lee Enfields with a mag now?

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Yes but have been moved to
Gardening > Plant Restraints ;)

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Originally Posted by Kiwi Sapper

A seller is trying, now, to list two consecutively numbered SMLE #1 mk 3's.

Latest looney decision from TradeMe is that he cannot include them in the same auction, he must list them separately. God knows why. It can't be because they think he is trying to avoid sucess fees as the two together are going to attract a higher price that sold separately.

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TM rules, you can only sell 1 firearm per auction. Wanting to sell 2 together (for a genuinely really good reason I might add) still won't work, getting upset about it is a pointless exercise.

He's prob better to hold onto them and try next Carvells auction.

Hi. I want to pay to use your service but I'm unhappy about what service you provide . . .

Meh 90% of guns on trademe are rubbish, overpriced, overpriced rubbish or GC advertising.

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Originally Posted by Kscott

TM rules, you can only sell 1 firearm per auction. Wanting to sell 2 together (for a genuinely really good reason I might add) still won't work, getting upset about it is a pointless exercise.

He's prob better to hold onto them and try next Carvells auction.

Hi. I want to pay to use your service but I'm unhappy about what service you provide . . .

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Yea, that's a funny ruling from them!
He certainly has a nice pair that need to stay together! Not sure if it's worth what he wants.

Tardme is not even consistent, I won a auction last night for two rifles on one listing.

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Originally Posted by Beavis

Meh 90% of guns on trademe are rubbish, overpriced, overpriced rubbish or GC advertising.

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And have all fired less than 50 rounds but shoot less than and inch @ 100 and being show with stuff they don't actually come with.

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Originally Posted by mikee

And......................being show with stuff they don't actually come with.

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Now that is idiocy which annoys me. If a seller is serious ,then good pictures of what is on offer, ( As the "girls in K Road) do is essential. Not just one or two crappy telephone pics followes by a list of what is in the picture but not included.

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Originally Posted by Mauser308

Now, having said that I will admit to losing a small amount of saliva out of the corner of my mouth when I saw a case of SMLE's still in wrap and sealed, sequentially numbered, WW2 dates and in the factory sealed case. They may just be worth a premium...

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Ohhhh dear lord

My pants just got tight

Where and when did you see this vision?

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Originally Posted by res

Ohhhh dear lord

My pants just got tight

Where and when did you see this vision?

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"My pants just got tight".

I'm filing that as a keeper for future use.

You need to go to the Lithgow museum twice,with a day off in between-it really that full on if your into such things.

My other half says she is never going with me again!

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Originally Posted by kiwijames

"My pants just got tight".

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"Pants?" Who wears them? Ask the residents North of Hadrian's Wall. :>)

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Originally Posted by Kiwi Sapper

"Pants?" Who wears them? Ask the residents North of Hadrian's Wall. :>)

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Aye laddie, something my grandfather apparently used to say. Along thing lines of the people of his native land and the local natives had a similar trait, ... feet too big to put in trroozers.