Thread: Who is interested in a pass-around for a Chinese scope?

Originally Posted by Gibo

I am very untrustworthy you’re on to me but like i said i like what you’re trying to do, just not onboard with the ‘how’. Good luck

I have seen other forums having pass-arounds. usually the forum is run by a store or a brand so the store/brand owner puts one up for the pass-around. They often do not require bond because they give out seconds for the pass-around and from their perspective, they do this to generate publicity for their own benefit. They are also usually very selective on who they let in on the pass-around. Only the very long term members who they (the owners) had past real dealings or transactions with. Even with this kind of restrictions the pass-arounds often do not work too well. After a few stops things get damaged or lost, or someone simply cannot be bothered returning it. It creates headache for the organiser and other people who wanted to have a go.

This forum had a lapping kit to share, right? can you share with us how did that go?

I personally do not benefit from the publicity, I also do not know members of this forum enough to assess people's individual responsibleness, reliability, and how good they take care of communal goods. I also think that kind subjective assessment could be wrong and/or unfair. It is better to just let anyone who is willing to put up the bond to have a go.

Originally Posted by Nibblet

What's the end game? Just that some people get to have a burn on a different scope or you looking to build some faith in the product so you can become the importer for them?

Also what kind of time frame are you expecting trials to be conducted in?

Not sure why people are getting so sensitive over the bond idea, lots of places you rent specialist gear from require the same.

1. I have no interest to be an importer. I got a job I love and I work 60~ 70 a week. If I was to make money importing stuff from China, I would import concrete, bricks, and steel. In other words non-distinguishable goods, not highly brand sensitive goods like rifle scopes. Besides Aliexpress' prices are already pretty good. If this scope turns out good, I may buy one, others may buy one, I will try to negotiate a good price for us.

2. If everyone gets 2 weeks, add shipping time and bank clearing time (and a bit of slack for me) we can do about one stop every 3 weeks. if 10 people had a turn it will take 30 weeks, or a little 7 months. If everyone was to have 3 weeks, then each stop would be 4 weeks.

Not something I'd personally be interested in trialling. Would rather just hear the reports from one or two people with proper experience with various quality brands, or even better put up against side by side both top end and scopes in the same price and specification range.

Basically all you really need to know is things like clarity, low light ability, eye box forgiveness throughout the mag range, consistent and accurate tracking.
After these it's all about product backup which is more important.

Just send it to @gimp for free, he likes making movies.

But I don’t like paying rando cash bonds to people I don’t know, in order to spend my time and energy reviewing probably-junk Optics that I’m not interested in

Originally Posted by gimp

But I don’t like paying rando cash bonds to people I don’t know, in order to spend my time and energy reviewing probably-junk Optics that I’m not interested in

didn't you have a vortex you reviewed? And a angle dialing leupold

I like the idea, I would be happy to have a play with it and review it but I dont have 400 bucks for something I may not buy and may fall to pieces on my rifle.
@Nibblets idea above has merit....send it to the gimp and also @Kiwi Greg

Slow to the party, the gimps not keen tho I bet he would be if he wasnt paying....as would I.

Originally Posted by Nibblet

didn't you have a vortex you reviewed? And a angle dialing leupold

Yeah shame about the Leupold. Never reviewed a Vortex though

I will be doing the first review anyway, if this comes through. Those who are on the fence can decide later based on my review.

I would just like to point out that the forum chronographs have been circulating for years now with no deposit required and thus far to the best of my knowledge they haven't been pinched or gone missing. Maybe a bit of goodwill (ie: not having to pay $400 in the first place) would get this idea off the ground?

There is also an American forum that also has a Facebook group that runs raffles twice weekly which is pretty neat, if you want in you chuck ten bucks in and there's a high end scope as the prize, it seems to work pretty well as there's a better chance of winning something than blowing $20 on lotto every week and its a non profit initiative ie: if the scope is worth $2k they only sell $2k worth of tickets

a common garden variety spring powered air rifle will kill it just as quick as a 300 magnum..... the recoil is in both directions so worse.
interesting concept.personally I dont own a scope that has cost me over $400 and cant see it ever happening.

Oh this is a a PASS around? I thought it was a PISS around!!!!!

Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst

I would just like to point out that the forum chronographs have been circulating for years now with no deposit required and thus far to the best of my knowledge they haven't been pinched or gone missing. Maybe a bit of goodwill (ie: not having to pay $400 in the first place) would get this idea off the ground?

On that note, I loaned out some dvd`s but have no idea where they are now My bad I guess. Should of got a huge deposit

I believe it is common practice to supply freeby products for field testing to magazines etc

Originally Posted by 7mmwsm

Apparently Chinese gear is crap.
I have bought a number of Chinese torches, based solely on the recommendations of a couple of members on here. Compare Maxtoch with LED Lenser. If it weren't for reviews and "tweeks" from Gadgetman and Mudgripz we would still be thinking LED Lenser were the bees knees. This could be a similar story.
If I were capable of giving a decent review I would likely do so. But when I look at the likes of Nightforce, I have trouble spotting what make them so valuable.
And how many places would let you walk out the door with one of their products at no charge on the proviso that you do a review? Some might discount the purchase price if you were to provide a review, but most would want some security.

I've seen NightForces video, apparently if your out of ammo you can through them at your prey or use them as a club to beat it to death then re-attach to your rifle with no POI change. Could be why they cost heaps.