Thread: Climate

cant say he wasnt warned MD -a site my brother owned once is a absolutely riddled with it- 600 pages on a certain orange gent alone and its reverted to personal abuse.couple are that far down the rabbit hole i suggest theyre actually in the old board lower colon!saw the middle east video of millions of tyres on fire certainly makes you wonder if our efforts will all be in vain.

This 'After skool' vid has some very interesting info on previous climate change events https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBF0hP2_nGw
Well worth the watch

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

This 'After skool' vid has some very interesting info on previous climate change events https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBF0hP2_nGw
Well worth the watch

Greetings @Moa Hunter,
Watched the vid. There was quite a bit of science involved with some fanciful conclusions. The existence of a great southern continent called Terra Incognita was based on all the land in the Northern Hemisphere needing more in the Southern Hemisphere to balance it up. It was shown on maps long before it was actually discovered. The vid is quite right that there were many versions of the Homo genus that moved from Africa over hundreds of thousands of years but expecting the Denisovans to have developed a major civilisation in the depths of an Ice Age is likely a bit of a stretch. Descendants of the Denisovans found their way to New Guinea and Australia around 40,000 years ago which would have involved some sea travel. The genus Homo only appeared around 2 million years ago and the world has been in an Ice Age from about 2.5 million years ago. Still it was a good watch. It was not that long ago that we thought there were far fewer Homo species about.
Regards Grandpamac

Originally Posted by grandpamac

Greetings @Moa Hunter,
Watched the vid. There was quite a bit of science involved with some fanciful conclusions. The existence of a great southern continent called Terra Incognita was based on all the land in the Northern Hemisphere needing more in the Southern Hemisphere to balance it up. It was shown on maps long before it was actually discovered. The vid is quite right that there were many versions of the Homo genus that moved from Africa over hundreds of thousands of years but expecting the Denisovans to have developed a major civilisation in the depths of an Ice Age is likely a bit of a stretch. Descendants of the Denisovans found their way to New Guinea and Australia around 40,000 years ago which would have involved some sea travel. The genus Homo only appeared around 2 million years ago and the world has been in an Ice Age from about 2.5 million years ago. Still it was a good watch. It was not that long ago that we thought there were far fewer Homo species about.
Regards Grandpamac

What I understood from the vid is that the rocks in the Antartic are the same as those at the great lakes and these rocks are different to any others anywhere else on earth, potentially demonstrating that at the time of a densovian (or other) civilisation the polar land mass was a long way north.
The 'fanciful conclusions' may be truths, as the ice melts we will find out. Certainly interesting to know what those structures under the ice are. Climate change, happening since 2 billion BC

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

What I understood from the vid is that the rocks in the Antartic are the same as those at the great lakes and these rocks are different to any others anywhere else on earth, potentially demonstrating that at the time of a densovian (or other) civilisation the polar land mass was a long way north.
The 'fanciful conclusions' may be truths, as the ice melts we will find out. Certainly interesting to know what those structures under the ice are. Climate change, happening since 2 billion BC

Greetings,
The rocks may be the same but it would have been a very long time since they were in the same place. 200 million years ago all of the southern continents including India were clumped together with Antarctica in the middle. Yes it was a long way north of where it is now with one edge sitting at 40 degrees south so climate would have been quite different as it would have been a warm period. Antarctica drifted south and was close to its current position around 40 million years ago. The Denisovan people appeared in what is now Russia very roughly 250 thousand years ago and the Homo Genus appeared in Africa around 2 million years ago so, regrettably, the chance of man inhabiting Antarctica is slight at best. See if you can find a book in the Library on Planet Earth that includes its origins and development. It is a ripping yarn. The one I have in front of me is "New Zealand Historical Atlas" which covers history better than Geology but still gives an oversight.
Regards Grandpamac.

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

What I understood from the vid is that the rocks in the Antartic are the same as those at the great lakes and these rocks are different to any others anywhere else on earth, potentially demonstrating that at the time of a densovian (or other) civilisation the polar land mass was a long way north.
The 'fanciful conclusions' may be truths, as the ice melts we will find out. Certainly interesting to know what those structures under the ice are. Climate change, happening since 2 billion BC

The claim that the Antarctic landmass was anywhere close the Great Lakes during Human timelines is so outside the realms of possibility that it doesn't even bear looking into.

Originally Posted by Coop

The claim that the Antarctic landmass was anywhere close the Great Lakes during Human timelines is so outside the realms of possibility that it doesn't even bear looking into.

It wasnt human timelines that were being examined in the vid it was pre human.
Certainly there are some difficult to explain structures around the world. For example the millions of machine cut stone pavers in ancient egypt, stuff that no one bothers to consider. It will be interesting if the structure in the antartic turns out to not be a natural occurrence. Makes life interesting

It was as a cracker list of oddities from the Lurch

fixing climate change from New Zealand, is a difficult as shoving melted butter up a porcupine’s arse with a hot needle.

Originally Posted by Maca49

fixing climate change from New Zealand, is a difficult as shoving melted butter up a porcupine’s arse with a hot needle.

many years ago my father said to me...if the rulers of China wanted a single lamb chop for all their people we in New Zealand could slaughter every single animal in country and we still wouldnt fill the order.... so explain to me again how we making cut backs will counteract them not doing so

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

many years ago my father said to me...if the rulers of China wanted a single lamb chop for all their people we in New Zealand could slaughter every single animal in country and we still wouldnt fill the order.... so explain to me again how we making cut backs will counteract them not doing so

We will only bring grief to our own standard of living for a no win. Unless the big polluters start the same process, I don’t see that happening, it’s not that I don’t believe things are changing, that’s a different argument for me, but I’m not living a much lesser life style if I’m the only one there.
I’m also not going to worry and fret about it, of course being on the Super curbs my daily wastefulness

Originally Posted by Maca49

fixing climate change from New Zealand, is a difficult as shoving melted butter up a porcupine’s arse with a hot needle.

....but not impossible....?;-)

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Originally Posted by tiroahunta

....but not impossible....?;-)

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Nothings impossible, apart from stopping climate change

@Moa Hunter, have you read At the Mountains of Madness by H P Lovecraft? He details the story there.

Originally Posted by Ben Waimata

@Moa Hunter, have you read At the Mountains of Madness by H P Lovecraft? He details the story there.

Did you look at the vid. It covers a structure now detected under the melting ice sheet which if it turns out was made by a pre human civilisation will be a very exciting discovery.