Thread: Climate

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

Did you look at the vid. It covers a structure now detected under the melting ice sheet which if it turns out was made by a pre human civilisation will be a very exciting discovery.

I'm halfway through it. Have not yet got to pre-human bit, but I have no issue with the idea of previous civilisations as they are such a consistent part of early human mythology and thought. Sensationalist versions of the story such as the netflix "Ancient Apocalypse" series are all very interesting.

Originally Posted by Ben Waimata

I'm halfway through it. Have not yet got to pre-human bit, but I have no issue with the idea of previous civilisations as they are such a consistent part of early human mythology and thought. Sensationalist versions of the story such as the netflix "Ancient Apocalypse" series are all very interesting.

If you're into this sort of stuff, there might be some who will question your suitability to have a FAL.....sad I know.


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Originally Posted by tiroahunta

If you're into this sort of stuff, there might be some who will question your suitability to have a FAL.....sad I know.


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Don't be ridiculous. Having diverse and different views is fine. Great even. Being unhinged and irrational is no part of fit and proper. If someone had called out, named or reported that other previous member we might be in a quite different situation right now - sadly he was too sane to reveal his thoughts and ideas.

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

Did you look at the vid. It covers a structure now detected under the melting ice sheet which if it turns out was made by a pre human civilisation will be a very exciting discovery.

@Moa Hunter a bit disappointing to find the 'pre-human culture' is just Denisovans! I remember back in my uni days my Anthropology lecturer told us that the idea of Neanderthals being brutes was totally wrong; they had bigger brains than anatomically modern humans, and a neanderthal skull had been found that had been carefully opened and had healed in a way that if the same thing was seen on a modern skull during a forensic autopsy it would be considered proof that the deceased individual had undergone successful brain surgery. Further more, while the neanderthals did look different as a group, the defining characteristics are not outside the modern human variation and if you put a neanderthal into a business suit walking down a modern city street no one would look twice, given the existing variation in modern humans. Except for the fact their significantly larger brains would mean they were likely to be very successful people and probably the boss! I don't think it is reasonable to consider neanderthals, denisovans etc as seperate to modern humans as they clearly cross-bred with us and one of the defining traits of species is the ability to produce viable offspring. They were people, and possibly even of superior genetics to us.

Originally Posted by Ben Waimata

@Moa Hunter a bit disappointing to find the 'pre-human culture' is just Denisovans! I remember back in my uni days my Anthropology lecturer told us that the idea of Neanderthals being brutes was totally wrong; they had bigger brains than anatomically modern humans, and a neanderthal skull had been found that had been carefully opened and had healed in a way that if the same thing was seen on a modern skull during a forensic autopsy it would be considered proof that the deceased individual had undergone successful brain surgery. Further more, while the neanderthals did look different as a group, the defining characteristics are not outside the modern human variation and if you put a neanderthal into a business suit walking down a modern city street no one would look twice, given the existing variation in modern humans. Except for the fact their significantly larger brains would mean they were likely to be very successful people and probably the boss! I don't think it is reasonable to consider neanderthals, denisovans etc as seperate to modern humans as they clearly cross-bred with us and one of the defining traits of species is the ability to produce viable offspring. They were people, and possibly even of superior genetics to us.

Woa pull back on the reins big fella ! The vid showed a structure under the Antartic ice that if it is a non natural structure would pre-date the denisovians, neanderthals and modern humans by hundreds of thousands of years ( or millions, need to watch a second time). The vid does suggest that it could be of Denisovian
origin but what if it is not ??
That 'At the Mountains of Madness' would make for a great movie

Maybe I need to watch again!

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

Did you look at the vid. It covers a structure now detected under the melting ice sheet which if it turns out was made by a pre human civilisation will be a very exciting discovery.

And sheets of plastic?

https://www.science.org/content/arti...und-antarctica

Originally Posted by Shamus_

https://www.science.org/content/arti...und-antarctica

I see geoengineering mentioned.

The surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is the fact that it has never tried to contact us.

Originally Posted by Tahr

The surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is the fact that it has never tried to contact us.

I'm sure they are out there, but they just lock the doors and wind the windows up as they go past.

Two things spring to mind:

One. A civilisation that can harness the stupendous amount of power and technology to be able to travel across the cosmos...and they can't transmit on our rudimentary electromagnetic frequencies to our radios and TV's and say "Yoohoo down there, we have arrived"?

And two. Whenever aliens or UFO's are mentioned in the US of A...LOOK THE OTHER WAY! They are just trying to distract you of some shit going down 180 degrees to all the hoopla.

OR MAYBE they look at the previous attempts by a higher order of intelligence to communicate with us lowly humans..and the distain we as a species showed then for what was given..and the distain that still is given and simply shake heads and say" you cant fix stupid" and carry on elsewhere .

Originally Posted by Tahr

Don't be ridiculous. Having diverse and different views is fine. Great even. Being unhinged and irrational is no part of fit and proper. If someone had called out, named or reported that other previous member we might be in a quite different situation right now - sadly he was too sane to reveal his thoughts and ideas.

They did. A few people at the range he practiced at raised concerns. Probably got fobbed of as a conspiracy theory or something...

If the police cant get it right, what hope is there for us doing so