Thread: Govt Announcement on EV versus petrol today

Originally Posted by buzzman

Do the ev cars get here on ev boats


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My workplace uses reams and reams of `Carbon neutral paper`.....from Australia
Not sure how it gets here, but I am sure it doesnt swim.
Was pondering this whole carbon BS whilst driving around Port Nelson all night, looking at the huge plumes of black shit spewing from cargo vessels

All goods and trade services costs will escalate; builders loggers boat builders goods retail and wholesale food fishing transport most recreation couriers earthworks contractors etc. Lower and fixed income and superannuants on barely enough savings and income may well be driven into inactivity snd isolation both because of fuel and heating costs travel costs and inability to afford replacement vehicles that will allow living a continuation of their NORMAL lifestyle and social interactions. Rates are exploding and soon gov t will control water as well as fuel and likely power also.
To be frank, I think these impositions are going to be very destructive of our economy and health and wellbeing.

Originally Posted by Pengy

My workplace uses reams and reams of `Carbon neutral paper`.....from Australia
Not sure how it gets here, but I am sure it doesnt swim.
Was pondering this whole carbon BS whilst driving around Port Nelson all night, looking at the huge plumes of black shit spewing from cargo vessels

They will all be wind and solar powered soon or wont be allowed into the country........If you thought freight was slow and expensive post covid lookout for the future.

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Originally Posted by veitnamcam

They will all be wind and solar powered soon or wont be allowed into the country........If you thought freight was slow and expensive post covid lookout for the future.

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I dont care if they use Fart power, so long as it takes less than 29 minutes to explain to the skipper about anchoring and pilots etc

Originally Posted by Pengy

I dont care if they use Fart power, so long as it takes less than 29 minutes to explain to the skipper about anchoring and pilots etc

I would hope a skipper doesn't need any explanations about anchoring and pilots.

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

I would hope a skipper doesn't need any explanations about anchoring and pilots.

Then live in hope my friend

Originally Posted by northdude

before we get to far into it...now I'm no expert but did they do any research on how many people can actually go out right now and buy a new car?? I've never owned one and am likely never will I have higher priorities than owning a new car when a second hand one will do me just fine...

Ha! Now don't you start throwing common sense around willy nilly!

Yip. In 60 plus years, have never felt the need to spend more than 12K on a car.

Bulldozer, tractor....now that's a different story

Originally Posted by Woody

All goods and trade services costs will escalate; builders loggers boat builders goods retail and wholesale food fishing transport most recreation couriers earthworks contractors etc. Lower and fixed income and superannuants on barely enough savings and income may well be driven into inactivity snd isolation both because of fuel and heating costs travel costs and inability to afford replacement vehicles that will allow living a continuation of their NORMAL lifestyle and social interactions. Rates are exploding and soon gov t will control water as well as fuel and likely power also.
To be frank, I think these impositions are going to be very destructive of our economy and health and wellbeing.

"You will own nothing and you will be happy"

Get with the program guys....
And prepare yourself for all the happiness

I see that what is filling in as for us as a Government until a real one comes along, has announced today that it is giving rebates to purchasers of electric and plug-in hybrid vehicles starting July 1, with up to $8625 for new vehicles and $3450 for used.

A link........ Nah. stuff it, tiny url has been misbehaving today so copy and paste this into THE ADDRESS ENTRY FIELD of your browser.

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/natio...ars/ar-AAKYUKn

HOWEVER......"Importantly the policy only applies to new and used cars arriving in New Zealand, so the existing second-hand market of cars that lower income families tend to purchase from will not be affected," says some pointless government minister.

So buy second hand stuff coming into NEW ZEALAND and get a rebate , but buy the same thing that is already here........Nah nothing

ALSO, I understand that the top rebate of $8625 only applies to purchases over $80,000........

The way I read it no rebates over $80000 value .
I guess if you can afford $80000 you don't need a rebate .
Mind you if you can afford anything worth 60000 I wouldn't have thought a rebate necessary either....
That said none of my vehicles in the last 30 yrs have been worth more than 10 and I needed a loan to purchase them....

Originally Posted by stug

Owner of EV City in CHCH says the rebate is a waste of time because all it will do is put the price of EV’s up because they know NZ gets a rebate. So it will be “cost neutral” but not the way the govt wants it.

That figures, was the same deal with govt subsidised insulation and heatpumps when I was getting quotes on that a few years back. Bigger firms with the govt subsidy seemed to quote $1000 higher, 'take off' a $500 subsidy and still be $500 more expensive than a smaller business without the subsidy.

Yes naturally each marque will up the price of the ev part of the range to cover the tax on the non ev part of the range....which they will have also increased price on to cover tax.

Thinking of becoming a rickshaw, soon to be very lucrative.

First electric ship:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Yara_Birkeland

And that s for the green cars:

If you want to fight it, sign the petition:
https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/cartax