Thread: oh dear....... proverbial nail and coffin article?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/118...0-going-hybrid

not that i could ever afford a land crab ........but i thought the whole market for these things was the unbreakable reliability and sheer power and fuck the fuel consumption cos if you can afford one you can afford to feed it.......
might as well go buy a prius

Don't have an issue with hybrid technology, but I would want the stepped CVT transmission.
Why even bother with CVT if you are making it stepped?
There are lots of good reliable auto transmissions with 6, 8, 9 or 10 gears out there.

CVT is why after 3 subaru's i will not get a newer one. cvt is pure crap ( but cheaper to manufacture)

The beauty of electric is you cut out the clutch and gear box. But when you go hybrid you still need every single bit. Waiting for a day when they'll make a hybrid which consists of a plug-in electric AWD with an optional roof mounted diesel gen set for longer trips. Run on rapeseed oil if you like.

nothing beautiful about electric cars at all

Somebody in the company is eating a lot of tofu.

If they want to sell them in Europe they may not have a choice, very strict rules and heavy taxes around emissions etc over there.

Originally Posted by Max Headroom

Somebody in the company is eating a lot of tofu.

i think you need help .....you seem obsessed with tofu .......perhaps compulsary BBQ breakfast lunch and dinner might put you back on track?

Problem is the new emission regulations manufacturers have to abide by now. The reason Toyota, and pretty much everyone else as well, is going V6 is because the V8's wont meet the new regs.
So smaller capacity is the only way to get round it.
The V6 twin turbo actually makes more HP and KW than the V8.

The V8 has been plagued with issues anyway. The EGR system blocks badly, and the engines suck dust in which in turn buggers up the turbos and then engine. We've replaced lots at work.
After seeing what we have to do to them all the time, I wouldn't touch 1...not without a new car warranty anyway.

The 70 series will no longer be viable in its currant built as well.
We still waiting for what it will be like, if they continue with it at all.

How do the new regs on emissions work?
Is it a percentage of "bad" stuff in the exhaust that must not be execeded or a total amount?
How will heavy transport get around them?

Originally Posted by scotty

i think you need help .....you seem obsessed with tofu .......perhaps compulsary BBQ breakfast lunch and dinner might put you back on track?

It's simply an observation based on my my own struggles with the stuff. I have only had part of a pack, I'm not a heavy user.

i will tell you that getting rid of the egr function on a common rail diesel vastly improves power and economy , turbo lag drops too

How about tesla electric motors for all the torque benefits etc.

And instead of the massive battery of cells, use a nice sounding alloy V8 etc to run a giant Alternator.

Got the herbs of the modern elec shit, with the sound of the old cool shit.
And probably lighter too.

Would be interesting to see one up to the door handles crossing the Rakaia or just a big puddle, blue flash?