Thread: RUC increases

Reminds me of that hilarious kiwi movie from away back, called "Carry me home"
Grandpa died down south somewhere, and they took him across Cook strait on the ferry, in one of those old oak wardrobes sticking out of the back of a mini.
Trouble was, he started to stink, and they got followed everywhere by flies.
Hilarious movie, bit too un-PC these days.
We've forgotten how to laugh at ourselves.

Originally Posted by Brasso

Reminds me of that hilarious kiwi movie from away back, called "Carry me home"
Grandpa died down south somewhere, and they took him across Cook strait on the ferry, in one of those old oak wardrobes sticking out of the back of a mini.
Trouble was, he started to stink, and they got followed everywhere by flies.
Hilarious movie, bit too un-PC these days.
We've forgotten how to laugh at ourselves.

...or just tired of bullshit.

Just a bit of stick and humour, but I guess it went over your head.
Yes, shot my first red deer in 1951, and spent a lifetime hunting ever since. Still hunting at age 84, but in easy country now.
You are correct about low post count, and might not have noticed I am brand spanking new here, with my first post only 2 days ago.
I see you are from Napier.
I could go on ad nauseum about hunting out of the old Boyds hut, in the headwaters of the Ngauroro up your way in the early 60's
I mean the lovely old malthoid hut with dirt floor, not the flash lodge that's evidently there today.
And Howletts hut up the Tukituki, behind Ongaonga.
Happy to discuss, but should you accuse me of being a duck hunter, I'll simply say I'm not old enough to be a duck hunter

Originally Posted by Brasso

It was predicted.

No it wasn't. First it was going to get really hot, by 2000 the entire world was going to be a desert. Then the world was going to freeze... now they really have no idea: hence the term "Climate Change".

As for the floods up north, they have been occurring there as long as there has been written history in New Zealand.

Originally Posted by Brasso

Unfortunately mate, but fortunately in the broader vision, we won't drive our vehicles "when we bloody well want" for too much longer.
Antarctic deep core drilling next summer is going to turn our lives upside down if the predicted answers become a reality (strong possibility), because it will be empirical proof that global warming is caused by homo sapiens. Yep, that's you and me mate.
You only have to see what's happening with those floods up north.
It was predicted.
Sadly, that old adage, "he who doesn't learn from experience is doomed to repeat it" is very true.
The global science community have been trying to talk to us for decades, but there are four major problems;-
1) We don't listen
2) We don't listen
3) We don't listen
4) We drive our vehicles "whenever we bloody want".
Meanwhile, keep the powder dry mate.

....So the 3 km deep Artic Ice cores drilled by SEN in the 1990s (SEN, Scientists without narratives) that showed that the late 1800's was the coldest time in the last 10'000 years, so that any rise in temperature since 'records began' is pretty much to be expected. 3.5 ish degrees colder.

Anywho, there is simply NO technology yet that can replace what diesel does for us, so those that desire us to stop using the stuff must be willing for civilisation to return to the middle ages. And I think you will find that the vast majority of people, once they look under the hood and understand that most every moving thing in their lives, moves because of diesel. Be that transport, agriculture, forestry, fishing, food to your supermarket, electricity etc etc.

I agree with you on diesel, particularly modern DPF systems.
What I actually said, is that we need to reduce the vehicle density. I did not target diesel or any other propulsion.
In fact, EV's are 2000 times more polluting than IC engine exhausts, due to particulates from tyres (not exclusive to EV's of course).
I marvel at how you can run your finger around the inside of a Toyota Hiace DPF tailpipe that has done 200 thousand kilometres, and get no soot at all. Shine a torch up there, and all you see is bright shiny steel as if the pipe was brand new.
Particulates are just as bad as CO2, especially from tyres, because all stormwater albeit inland or coastal, ends up in the ocean.
Yes, the cores at Vic Uni in wellington are still ambiguous, but next summer if all goes well, the much deeper cores will produce empirical data that will be very difficult to argue against.
And yes, you are right about the floods being historical, but what's no longer historical is the frequency

RUC costs will go up no matter what.
issue is the govt will spend the extra revenue on bullshit like maori road signs not pot hole repair
personally i like my 3.0 petrol and 3.0 diesel and will continue to use them.
i will not get on a bus! or a train!

Originally Posted by gonetropo

RUC costs will go up no matter what.
issue is the govt will spend the extra revenue on bullshit like maori road signs not pot hole repair
personally i like my 3.0 petrol and 3.0 diesel and will continue to use them.
i will not get on a bus! or a train!

You’re just a stroppy bastard! no go fix another Tesla

Brasso, there's few certain things in the world, except that politicians will always be pushing fear-porn about global catastrophes. The global cooling and warming one has been pushed for many years now, and it's amazing people still believe it. Apparently even elderly people fall for it. I know science and statistics prove it. But I can find science and statistics that proves the opposite too.
The only thing 'the studies' inform you of is who is paying the scientist that carried out the study.
The only thing you can possibly achieve by pushing this agenda is more government control and tax over your life and mine. Live and let live, and stop encouraging further government control. It's not the answer.

On another note, the previous gen petrol rav4 I often drive gets between 12-15L/100km. This is atrocious for a 2015 car. The 1990s 200tdi discovery that I own gets between 7-8L/100km. Yet I think its actually cheaper for me to drive the rav4 once you factor in RUCs. Pretty annoying. Beats getting on a bus though.

Originally Posted by Maca49

You’re just a stroppy bastard! no go fix another Tesla

never ever again will i get my test gear out to work on one of those POS
the nissan leaf is far better made btw but i will never own an EV

Weather runs in cycles, globle warming is BS

You would laugh if you saw my 1957 series I SWB Landrover ragtop.
It looks terrible, but is fantastic.
I have owned it since 1985.
Many Landrovers of that era were ruined by changing the engine to a 6 cylinder Holden. Not this one.

I like to view the cycles as "Climate change" Been going up and down for thousands of years.
But "global warming" is different, It only ever goes up, never down, and that is the concerning part.
It doesn't help when people think the warnings are coming from politicians. They are not.
Politicians are just the messengers, and you can shoot them if you like.
The warnings are measured, and coming from experienced scientists.
Victoria University of Wellington predicted some time ago, that the first areas to be flooded by sea level rise, would be Lowrey bay Eastbourne, and Voila! It's now happening.
Massive seawalls are being built there, but they are only a time delay.
As we speak, Arctic ice is falling into the sea at around 37000 tonnes per second (yes, per second), not including Antarctic ice, which is evidently at a higher rate.
The people of the Bering sea cannot sledge across the ice from the USA to Russia to fish any more, for the first time in living memory.
We have our heads in the sand guys.
But by crikey, have you noticed how much easier the hunting has gotten lately?
The local reds are in big mobs, and even more fallow about lately, including some white ones.
Keep the powder dry

I sometimes wonder about the safety risks of DIY on EV's
I don't know much about them, but am aware that the voltages can be as high as 600 VDC from a low impedance source. That means high current delivery capability in short time, equally as dangerous as high power valve radio transmitters that killed a few technicians in the old days.
Modern super capacitors can be quite lethal too, with low voltage, but very high current (fire).
if you calculate the energy, we are in some cases, talking about the equivalent of a slab of TNT about the size of a pound of butter.
The mind boggles

This thread has gone off the reservation but to summarise you will be paying more for RUC from the 1st of July