Thread: RUC increases

Originally Posted by McNotty

If I remember right, EVs 0.3% chance vs CE 1.5% chance of igniting. Lots of research, figures don’t change too much. If you took out fires while EVs charging, it’d be even less.

Whoa back there fella... Adjust your figures for age and speed of fire development (as a factor of damage caused) and then run the numbers.

Also total risk from compounds generated from the combustion and gassing off processes is horrific with EV batteries, them bastards are WAY more toxic than any other vehicle fire. The figure was something like up to 3000 gallons of toxic gasses per kWH of capacity - which it lots.

That should be vehicle age - within the stats the older the vehicle the more likely the chances of popping there are.

I don't have a problem with RUC, but I have a problem with the unfair application of it.
All the waffle we hear about EV's is just that - waffle.
We urgently need to reduce the numbers of vehicles crawling over the planet like ants.
EV's have tyres, and tyres, with road marking paint, are a significant contributor to ocean microplastics.
We think tyres are just rubber, but are actually a plastic/rubber compound that finds it's way into the oceans from all roads/stromwater conduits, albeit inland or coastal.
Here is a sobering ASA science prediction;-
Quite soon now, all the ocean plastics by weight, will equal all the ocean fish by weight.
I say apply RUC to ALL vehicles, including private cars, to minimise unnecessary car use

Originally Posted by Brasso

I don't have a problem with RUC, but I have a problem with the unfair application of it.
All the waffle we hear about EV's is just that - waffle.
We urgently need to reduce the numbers of vehicles crawling over the planet like ants.
EV's have tyres, and tyres, with road marking paint, are a significant contributor to ocean microplastics.
We think tyres are just rubber, but are actually a plastic/rubber compound that finds it's way into the oceans from all roads/stromwater conduits, albeit inland or coastal.
Here is a sobering ASA science prediction;-
Quite soon now, all the ocean plastics by weight, will equal all the ocean fish by weight.
I say apply RUC to ALL vehicles, including private cars, to minimise unnecessary car use

Unfortunately there's a heavy tax included in the price of petrol, RUCs are designed for diesels vehicles that don't have that tax included in the fuel cost

Originally Posted by Brasso

I don't have a problem with RUC, but I have a problem with the unfair application of it.
All the waffle we hear about EV's is just that - waffle.
We urgently need to reduce the numbers of vehicles crawling over the planet like ants.
EV's have tyres, and tyres, with road marking paint, are a significant contributor to ocean microplastics.
We think tyres are just rubber, but are actually a plastic/rubber compound that finds it's way into the oceans from all roads/stromwater conduits, albeit inland or coastal.
Here is a sobering ASA science prediction;-
Quite soon now, all the ocean plastics by weight, will equal all the ocean fish by weight.
I say apply RUC to ALL vehicles, including private cars, to minimise unnecessary car use

What do you class as unnecessary use, many of us live were public transport is zero. We are already paying over the top for fuel in this country let alone RUC charges.

And to add to that @gonetropo, check out the hundreds of thousands of BYD's parked up all over China. Brand new and registered...and left to rot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SEfwoqKRU8

yep, seen that vid.
well worth a view

Originally Posted by Brasso

I don't have a problem with RUC, but I have a problem with the unfair application of it.
All the waffle we hear about EV's is just that - waffle.
We urgently need to reduce the numbers of vehicles crawling over the planet like ants.
EV's have tyres, and tyres, with road marking paint, are a significant contributor to ocean microplastics.
We think tyres are just rubber, but are actually a plastic/rubber compound that finds it's way into the oceans from all roads/stromwater conduits, albeit inland or coastal.
Here is a sobering ASA science prediction;-
Quite soon now, all the ocean plastics by weight, will equal all the ocean fish by weight.
I say apply RUC to ALL vehicles, including private cars, to minimise unnecessary car use

and i say the only public transport you will see me use is an airbus or boeing!
i will drive my cars when i bloody well want and the greenies can go fornicate with themselves, pathetic socialist brainwashed little muppets

Originally Posted by RUMPY

Should be, they aren't paying anything to use the roads except their rego which is small compared to a years worth of fuel tax or runs.
The government wants to trick more people into evs before slapping taxes onto them.

dam right rumpy , think of the extra wear and tear on our roads for a start with the extra weight these are light trucks not cars and should be ruc'ed as that , not to mention the carnage of a ev in a crash at speed .
For example, the 2023 GMC Hummer EV, a full-size pickup, weighs more than 9,000 pounds, sporting a 2,900-pound battery. In comparison, the 2023 GMC Sierra, also a full-size pickup, weighs less than 6,000 pounds.

Originally Posted by kotuku

considering the present political volatility and impending elections price increases would be like wheeling a full casket into a wedding methinks?a vote killer150%

It's happened before. Grandad died 2 days before one of the cousins got married, bit of head scratching then it was decided to park grandad in a side chapel and box on with the wedding.

One of the issues they are just uncovering is the tyre wear factor with EV's is way higher than an equivalent lighter ICE car, and this creates a lot more generation of what is called PM2.5 from the rubber compounds. This is Particulate Matter 2.5micron, meaning tiny little bits of rubber that can be airborne and are small enough to lodge into the fine blood vessels in our brains leading to a higher risk of acute and chronic brain failure illnesses (stroke, TIA, etc etc). So that little EV driving gloating plick actually isn't as good for the environment and your health at all!

On the button No3
The latest statistics are that pollution from tyres is 2000 time that from vehicle exhausts.

Unfortunately mate, but fortunately in the broader vision, we won't drive our vehicles "when we bloody well want" for too much longer.
Antarctic deep core drilling next summer is going to turn our lives upside down if the predicted answers become a reality (strong possibility), because it will be empirical proof that global warming is caused by homo sapiens. Yep, that's you and me mate.
You only have to see what's happening with those floods up north.
It was predicted.
Sadly, that old adage, "he who doesn't learn from experience is doomed to repeat it" is very true.
The global science community have been trying to talk to us for decades, but there are four major problems;-
1) We don't listen
2) We don't listen
3) We don't listen
4) We drive our vehicles "whenever we bloody want".
Meanwhile, keep the powder dry mate.

Woohoo, that's a lot of weight for a van without a roof

Originally Posted by Brasso

Unfortunately mate, but fortunately in the broader vision, we won't drive our vehicles "when we bloody well want" for too much longer.
Antarctic deep core drilling next summer is going to turn our lives upside down if the predicted answers become a reality (strong possibility), because it will be empirical proof that global warming is caused by homo sapiens. Yep, that's you and me mate.
You only have to see what's happening with those floods up north.
It was predicted.
Sadly, that old adage, "he who doesn't learn from experience is doomed to repeat it" is very true.
The global science community have been trying to talk to us for decades, but there are four major problems;-
1) We don't listen
2) We don't listen
3) We don't listen
4) We drive our vehicles "whenever we bloody want".
Meanwhile, keep the powder dry mate.

Are you a hunter or target shooter? Maybe even go fishing? Please excuse me being suspicious of anyone with a low post count baiting those who disagree with a probable troll position.