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    Quote Originally Posted by gadgetman View Post
    I'd personally go the Commode Door or Falcon. Everyone I come across with European vehicles is having nothing but issues and when they do it is difficult and expensive to get them repaired. A good idea is to check used vehicles of comparable age and see what sort of mileage is typical on them. If they are any good they will, generally, be out there clocking up the k's. A lot of the Euro stuff doesn't seem to clock up big k's, but the Just Holden' On's and Fix Or Repair Daily's do.

    Like that classic old Landie stalwart's. I'd often hear how they were 30 years old and still going. Mainly because they couldn't be kept running long enough to clock up the k's and wear out.
    I wouldn't get another commodore ..I've had 3 the latest is a 2011 sports wagon 3.6 ..the SIDI has a reputation for sludging ..the oil is usually had it by 7000kms but they say 15000k between changes ..it goes well 12 km /100 around town 9 on a trip ...they are known for throwing codes due to electrical sensors etc faulty... you need a code reader if you own one also the cam chain is a problem with earlier models ...even then they won't last past 300 .000 kms .. the VT VY are more reliable with the old buick motor ..and external belts which are easy to maintain ..these should see 1/2 a million kms if maintained ..most SIDi motors are stuffed well before this ..the VY series 2 would do 800 to a tank on the Perth to Gold Coast trip sitting on 110 with cruise control ..the SIDI well I wouldn't bother its to unreliable electrically .. ..getting a Camry next over the GM quality issues ...

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    My GF has the c200 1.6 diesel bluetec..2 years old 24thou ...its just had the sump removed & replaced as it developed a leak..blue tooth faulty ...fuel cap faulty .. ..faulty manufacturing ...the latest fuel fill up was 72 dollars Aust and the computer said range 1200 kms .. the 1.6 is based on a Nissan/ Renault motor tweaked by Merc ..very hard to get info on the web about Merc problems ...the cost of repairs is a wallet breaker
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    Pity really as you can by a decent looking walnut and leather 5litre Merc for mid to late teens
    The look good, travel well and by all accounts go like stink
    However, if they break regularly and it cost a fortune then just not worth the hassle
    Might get lucky might not
    Can't afford not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetroot View Post
    Out of interest, what model/age Range Rovers cause you the most grief?
    My brother in law has recently bought a 2007 L332 Supercharged, got a 3 year mechanical warranty with it. Saying that hasn't had an issue yet.
    @Beetroot have whittled it down to 2 now. Waited 3 weeks for a fuel pump to arrive for one, which is fucking ridiculous. They are/were (roughly) 1 x 2005, 1 x 2007, 1 x2009, 1 x 2010. I call them Xmas trees cos of all the coloured flashing warning lights on the dash
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    Quote Originally Posted by jakewire View Post
    Pity really as you can by a decent looking walnut and leather 5litre Merc for mid to late teens
    The look good, travel well and by all accounts go like stink
    However, if they break regularly and it cost a fortune then just not worth the hassle
    Might get lucky might not
    Can't afford not.
    Look at the positives. You'll look good and feel comfortable while you're waiting for help to arrive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jakewire View Post
    Pity really as you can by a decent looking walnut and leather 5litre Merc for mid to late teens
    The look good, travel well and by all accounts go like stink
    However, if they break regularly and it cost a fortune then just not worth the hassle
    Might get lucky might not
    Can't afford not.
    Private or dealer? I've always liked Mercs and the 500's are very cool. Way better looking than a Jag of the same vintage.
    If its a dealer you could haggle on a mechanical warranty?
    We had the same around buying a Subaru. Very mixed reviews. Its been a great car for us but got a mechanical warranty for reassurance.
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    Same reason KJ I've just no long ago got another three yr warranty on the truck, first one came by negotiation second in August I bought.
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    I love European cars, I grew up with them. They were also damned reliable too, the "problem" arose for two reasons. When cars started incorporating more electronics in the early to mid 90s, the Japanese had the drop on everyone else. Germans attempted to play catch up but unfortunately their efforts were combined with their insatiable love for building things complicated - more often than not, needlessly so.

    German cars in particular, quite unlike their Japanese counterparts, do not tolerate neglect. In true Teutonic fashion, one needs to replace things according to the schedule, otherwise they fail which then sets off a chain of events leading to even larger repair bills. They are cheap here for a reason, nobody wants to buy them because they are comparatively expensive to maintain - especially when neglected.

    In summary, if you can source a car with a good service history, are particular about maintenance and - perhaps most importantly - have a fighting budget, they are enjoyable.
    Last edited by Ryan; 20-12-2017 at 07:15 PM. Reason: Corrected spelling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan View Post


    I love European cars, I grew up with them. They were also damned reliable too, the "problem" arose for two reasons. When cars started incorporating more electronics in the early to mid 90s, the Japanese had the drop on everyone else. Germans attempted to play catch up but unfortunately their efforts were combined with their insatiable love for building things complicated - more often than not, needlessly so.

    German cars in particular, quite unlike their Japanese counterparts, do not tolerate neglect. In true Teutonic fashion, one needs to replace things according to the schedule, otherwise they fail which then sets of a chain of events leading to even larger repair bills. They are cheap here for a reason, nobody wants to buy them because they are comparatively expensive to maintain - especially when neglected.

    In summary, if you can source a car with a good service history, are particular about maintenance and - perhaps most importantly - have a fighting budget, they are enjoyable.
    A service history does not help electronic failures tho....workmate finally got his wife's Mini (BMW) back from the authorized service agent on Monday....FOUR MONTHS ! without a car to fix an indicator fault....
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    I understand, I did explicitly refer to over-complication though. The more things there are to go wrong, the more things will go wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    I understand, I did explicitly refer to over-complication though. The more things there are to go wrong, the more things will go wrong.
    Yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by veitnamcam View Post
    A service history does not help electronic failures tho....workmate finally got his wife's Mini (BMW) back from the authorized service agent on Monday....FOUR MONTHS ! without a car to fix an indicator fault....
    Hahahahaha THIS is the reality of owning a Euro.
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    service history on euro cars, normally a box full of invoices and its 3 years old, that should be enough to ring alarm bells.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ONYVA View Post
    service history on euro cars, normally a box full of invoices and its 3 years old, that should be enough to ring alarm bells.
    If it's only 3 years old it should be under warranty for most European marques unless it's reached 100 000km+.
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