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    Thanks mate , yeh will just be looking for eyes out that far and then closing the gap to ID etc. Just found this thread for mounting in case anyone needs it. http://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co.n...r-rifle-22656/
    You know, if you need 100 rounds to kill a deer, maybe hunting isn't your sport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrikerNZ View Post
    That looks like the right Maxtoch, you might be stretching a bit to I.D. out to 500, although I've never really taken much notice of the extreme range mine is capable of.. Had no problems shooting to 200 or so (about as far as I'm happy shooting at night), and spotting roos out to 300+ in scrubby tussock country

    I use a mount like this - http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Scope...383454411.html (Wasn't this exact one, just the first I could find)

    Rock solid on a suppressed 223, assume it should handle extra recoil alright. Takes 20 seconds to attach or remove and holds the light nice and high in case you have tall turrets or a wide objective. Works fine on any size tube..
    Sunday night picking out deer easily to 550m with Maxtoch 2X. Know it because we ranged it and lost a 200plus Jap last roar on the same ridge at last light.

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    Couldn't find the 2x mate ? Is it a different light or just a change of bulb or ?
    You know, if you need 100 rounds to kill a deer, maybe hunting isn't your sport.

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    I think the 2x is out of stock but they are bringing out a lighter model that has a shit load more grunt by the sound of it. May be a few months away yet.
    Gadget or Mud should be able to give you the low down

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    i repair one hell of a lot of spotlights. although HID lights are energy efficient the current used in the first few seconds of ignition are very high. so if your battery is a bit down it wont fire up the tube even though it has enough current to run it. also quite a few of them do not like vehicle voltages which can be around 14.5 volts. the inverters just die with that voltage. i have a few scope mound HID's in the garage if you are interested and probably a halogen too.
    send me a pm if you are interested

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    Light force are putting out on the NZ market the portable Enforcer which you can have a big battery attached to it for portability and no wires.

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    I did some tests a while back comparing a lightforce with HID conversion unit (China) against the Maxtoch 2X TeRei mentions. Result: Lightforce HID modded unit about 235,000 lux, and Maxtoch dedomed model 2X 290,000-300,000. This equates to 970m maximum range and 1080m for the Maxtoch 2X (down to equivalent of full moonlight on target). Some of the big new HIDs are alot more powerful but the Maxtoch LEDs are up with some HIDs now.

    The Maxtoch M24 mentioned above runs at around 220,000 lux or 940m. Range finder tests for this model type showed max for big animal bodies (not eyes) to round about 450-500m in perfect conditions - naked eye. 2X is further.

    But....if you can be patient gadgetman and I and some other kiwi boys are just completing the specs with Maxtoch for a new very high performance model. It is a lightweight model 2X and runs at a huge 370,000 lux. Runs on just two 18650 batts, and can be used both scope mounted or as handheld spottie at just 308 gms. We have tested this in the field and it is an absolute beauty - good light on hills a kilometer away and stumping power in the 0-400m normal shooting range. All the spare batts you need for a nite shooting fit into your shirt pocket.

    We have another high performance model too that may come out - 300,000+ lux from the smaller Maxtoch M24. Gadget and I modded both od these lights considerably from the original prototypes and we have them where we want them. Production details should be clear in couple of weeks.
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    if you are in christchurch i have a couple of HID scope mounted lights, will swap for venison. pm me if interested

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudgripz View Post
    I did some tests a while back comparing a lightforce with HID conversion unit (China) against the Maxtoch 2X TeRei mentions. Result: Lightforce HID modded unit about 235,000 lux, and Maxtoch dedomed model 2X 290,000-300,000. This equates to 970m maximum range and 1080m for the Maxtoch 2X (down to equivalent of full moonlight on target). Some of the big new HIDs are alot more powerful but the Maxtoch LEDs are up with some HIDs now.

    The Maxtoch M24 mentioned above runs at around 220,000 lux or 940m. Range finder tests for this model type showed max for big animal bodies (not eyes) to round about 450-500m in perfect conditions - naked eye. 2X is further.

    But....if you can be patient gadgetman and I and some other kiwi boys are just completing the specs with Maxtoch for a new very high performance model. It is a lightweight model 2X and runs at a huge 370,000 lux. Runs on just two 18650 batts, and can be used both scope mounted or as handheld spottie at just 308 gms. We have tested this in the field and it is an absolute beauty - good light on hills a kilometer away and stumping power in the 0-400m normal shooting range. All the spare batts you need for a nite shooting fit into your shirt pocket.

    We have another high performance model too that may come out - 300,000+ lux from the smaller Maxtoch M24. Gadget and I modded both od these lights considerably from the original prototypes and we have them where we want them. Production details should be clear in couple of weeks.
    Sounds wicked man , any time frame ?
    You know, if you need 100 rounds to kill a deer, maybe hunting isn't your sport.

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    Maxtoch just making some switch mods we've recommended but we should know production plan within say 2-3 weeks.

    To give you an idea of price/power/performance, the bigger Led Lenser P17.2 costs about $246NZ, weighs 773gms (too heavy for scope mount), produces 50k lux, and has max range of 450 meters.

    By comparison this new lightweight 2X Maxtoch ex factory will likely cost just$130NZ delivered, weigh less than half the P17.2 at 308 gms, will produce about 7x the output at 370k lux, with max range of 1.2 kilometers.
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    Sounds seriously good

    Do you have any pics ?
    A big fast bullet beats a little fast bullet every time

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    New lightweight 2X looks exactly same as present Maxtoch M24 Sniper, but 1cm longer and with bigger 68mm instead of 63mm head.
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    Cant wait sounds like a plan Cheers
    You know, if you need 100 rounds to kill a deer, maybe hunting isn't your sport.

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    What about backscatter, atmospheric conditions control how far you can see surely? I cant see the point in lugging an anti aircraft spotlight round and only being able to clearly identify a target to 200 m. Then theres the bloody moths it attracts. I run a ksn barrel mounted on a 22 and 223 in perfection conditions can id a hares body at 200 m normally 150, and would rarely shoot even that far because its like looking down a tunnel of smoke most nights. I have hunted with a guy with an hid spotlight brilliant amount of light but the only way the shooter could get a clear sight picture was to run 7-8 metres out the side to get away from the backscatter.

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    Just a question regarding those maxtoch lights: is there a setting for low level light, to use when walking around and for saving a bit the batteries ?

 

 

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